I’d agree to a point but I’d point out they’re doing a piss poor job of it. The ruling class is at its best in decades and we have unemployment? Fucking why? Compel them to answer that and then you can begin hammering out the finer points. So basically if the rich provide for the poor by slowing the poor to work and provide for their families, then why the fuck is employment and home ownership down so much?
Or they would say that the person should take any job, even if it would pay them so low that they can’t pay rent, keep the lights on, and feed themselves — in other words, effectively slavery.
That’s a fallacy. The argument that we need the rich to provide jobs implies we need the rich to provide meaningful jobs that allow people to be self sufficient. If they’re actual job creators, the benefit is that they’re lifting others up. Maybe not as high as they are, but they are benefiting society. If they fail to do that, the argument that the rich create jobs carries no weight.
I’d agree to a point but I’d point out they’re doing a piss poor job of it. The ruling class is at its best in decades and we have unemployment? Fucking why? Compel them to answer that and then you can begin hammering out the finer points. So basically if the rich provide for the poor by slowing the poor to work and provide for their families, then why the fuck is employment and home ownership down so much?
You ask them that.
This person would say it’s the poor fault to not find a job, lazyness.
How does that work if there are more total people than total jobs?
Or they would say that the person should take any job, even if it would pay them so low that they can’t pay rent, keep the lights on, and feed themselves — in other words, effectively slavery.
That’s a fallacy. The argument that we need the rich to provide jobs implies we need the rich to provide meaningful jobs that allow people to be self sufficient. If they’re actual job creators, the benefit is that they’re lifting others up. Maybe not as high as they are, but they are benefiting society. If they fail to do that, the argument that the rich create jobs carries no weight.