There is no good or bad, there is no right or wrong, there is no saint or evil, there is no rights or obligations, just the jungle’s law total freedom.
Umm no there shouldn’t…
Hey I heard about a bunch of men that want to be going their own way, maybe that’ll be a nice spot to put those people
glances at OP’s instance name
Yeah the level of intellectual rigor in this topic kinda aligns with what one can expect from them…
On paper I could almost agree but let them leave ONCE. By agreeing to follow the rules and laws of the society etc. And if they then break the agreement, permanently send them back. This makes it so that people born in there have a chance to leave. And perhaps some people could have a light bulb moment that maybe having institutions in place isn’t all that bad.
That said, you always have total freedom to do exactly what you want. As does everyone else - that’s the part everyone tends to forget when floating ideas of this type. It’s just that majority of people already have decided to use that freedom to create systems that encourages certain behaviors and discourages others. People who want absolute freedom for the individual often seem to like the idea of stripping other individuals from the freedom of forming collectives.
We already live in a society that’s the result of the jungle’s law of total freedom. The only issue is that you can’t choose what kind of a system you’re born to and it’s not necessarily easy to switch into another system. But you always have options. People just tend to want to have their cake and eat it too.
It’s called a ghetto, and those already exist.
It’s also called Slum, or Favela, or Mogadishu, or a besieged city.
I suggest you play cyberpunk 2077 to see what happends in a city with almost no rules. The idea seems good in theory, but falls flat in practice. such places would have enormous allure, when announced hundreds of thousands would trek there, in the hopes of striking it rich through less than ethical means, companies and facilities would thrive since minimum salary is just a suggestion. These cities would become economic powerhouses of depravity. With power comes influence and slowly they will try to infiltrate the government that is supposed to uphold the law in the rest of the country. This is even further accelerated because people go where the money flows. Populations grow, the city grows, economy grows and degredations continue. This cycle repeats until there is no difference between country and city.
What does “legal” mean?
If there are no laws or no enforcement, the city’s strongest or most ruthless inhabitants will make and enforce their own (but without bothering to write them down or give you a fair trial).
Cities like this exist, plenty of them. Everywhere a state isn’t strong enough to enforce the laws, gang rule takes over.What about children born there or other people taken there against their will?
Also, as other have pointed out, no externally imposed law just means people will organise and internally impose laws, and boom, you have laws again.
Everything is voluntary only you can decide to enter there, but if you are born there you have to stay.
Well that sounds awful. And what if someone abducts you and smuggles you in? That doesn’t sound voluntary.
There will be a big wall people will not be able to cross. And there will be border patrol checking everything that goes in and out.
Sounds an awful lot like a rule.
This sounds like a plot from a dystopic sci-fi movie from the 80s. Starring Kurt Russel as Snake Plissken
This is what prisons are actually like in the most dysfunctional countries. The wardens control the doors, everything inside is controlled by gangs of inmates (It’s not pleasant, and there’s definitely not any sort of freedom).
Have you heard of tunnels?
It sounds fun and all until billionaires and their militias enter the game.
If they enter they stay. Everything allowed the only rule is there are no rules.
the only rule is there are no rules.
And who enforces that only rule? Some group with guns will simply tell you “Follow our rules now”. And establish a new government, only without the good bits.
Why on earth would I want my tax money to go to that?
No
Sounds like the perfect location for a bioweapons lab
Supposing people have time to do that instead of smocking crack cocaine all day long baby…
Sounds like your uncrossable border wall can be crossed.
“I want all the cool things that a civilized society has come up with but none of the systems that enabled us to get those things!”
-The OP, probably
He should sign up for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_and_Afraid and see how that feels. Though nothing but above is stopping him from just doing that in the nearest forest. If he goes in deep enough, unlikely anyone is going to bother him in most countries.
You ever seen the film Gamer, remote control convicts. This is how you end up there. Cameras everywhere and everyone is tagged, watch to see if your favourite survives people!
Never seen it but I will look for it
