I just don’t see the USA getting any progress at all unless the DNC sweep the next election.
Even if we think they, the DNC, are inadequate to represent everyone in this nation, third parties and independents are not a viable option unless we reform elections first (which can and should be done simultaneously). The most independent senators this nation had in a hundred years was like 2 years ago, 4 IND, and it just snapped right back to a GOP majority afterwards.
They’re the same party, one is just more rainbow coloured than the other. The DNC are fascist collaborators. They aren’t better in any meaningful way and their “reign” will just end up leading to republican leadership 4 or 8 years later
Because this comm is ultimately and unfortunately full of liberals. Comes at the cost of this being an anti-tankie comm which cascades into anti-socialism
This community isn’t full of liberals, it’s a diverse community filled with all sorts of people with different views. Some are liberals, some are US “liberals”, some are anarchists, communists, environmentalists and so on. Neither is this community anti-socialist, if anything, it’s pro-socialist.
but sure, blanket an entire community because five people disagree with you.
There’s heavy pro-DNC sentiment in here. If that doesn’t scream liberal to you, then i don’t know what will. Secondly, I’m not even an American, i made a comment specifically referencing the “DNC is better than GOP argument” hence the apparent “defaultism”.
Finally, yes it’s a diverse comm, i never disputed that fact, but your community is undeniably dominated by liberals who are by definition pro-capitalist and ipso facto anti-communist
If you’re not a yank, why are you using their definition of liberal? In the US, liberals don’t have any socialist policy, while liberals in the rest of the world all have social liberalism. Heavy pro-DNC sentiment? What? the 13 people who downvoted you? Most of whom aren’t even regulars in this community.
I’ve also never seen anyone in this community actually defend capitalism. Capital, in its current state, is falling apart and proving itself to be unsustainable. Find me anyone who’s defending capitalism, and I’ll challenge them on that.
I was using the US definition of liberalism because we were discussing a US topic. My fault for not specifying. As for the heavy pro-DNC sentiment, i see it often. There are more Americans than any other nationality combined on Lemmy, and by extension, this community. Therefore, i see it more than I’d expect when this community seemed to have been supposed to cater more to leftists who were critical of the very radical wing.
Now I’m by no means saying this is the default here, most users here are in fact very critical of capitalism, the problem, however, is that many here think they can do genuine socialist organizing within capitalist parties—who by the way have stopped at nothing to shirk their more radical counterparts. Just look at Zohran Mamdani for example, his policies are no more radical than Polanski’s Green party, but democrats were hesitant to endorse him. Nevertheless, there still exists a great many who think organising can be done through the DNC. I still use the term liberal to refer to these individuals: socialist in will, liberal in praxis.
They literally are, just not by a significant enough margin that would matter.
I just don’t see the USA getting any progress at all unless the DNC sweep the next election.
Even if we think they, the DNC, are inadequate to represent everyone in this nation, third parties and independents are not a viable option unless we reform elections first (which can and should be done simultaneously). The most independent senators this nation had in a hundred years was like 2 years ago, 4 IND, and it just snapped right back to a GOP majority afterwards.
They’re the same party, one is just more rainbow coloured than the other. The DNC are fascist collaborators. They aren’t better in any meaningful way and their “reign” will just end up leading to republican leadership 4 or 8 years later
Why are you getting down voted? You are spot on with that comment 👍!
Because this comm is ultimately and unfortunately full of liberals. Comes at the cost of this being an anti-tankie comm which cascades into anti-socialism
lmao, the US-defaultism
This community isn’t full of liberals, it’s a diverse community filled with all sorts of people with different views. Some are liberals, some are US “liberals”, some are anarchists, communists, environmentalists and so on. Neither is this community anti-socialist, if anything, it’s pro-socialist.
but sure, blanket an entire community because five people disagree with you.
There’s heavy pro-DNC sentiment in here. If that doesn’t scream liberal to you, then i don’t know what will. Secondly, I’m not even an American, i made a comment specifically referencing the “DNC is better than GOP argument” hence the apparent “defaultism”.
Finally, yes it’s a diverse comm, i never disputed that fact, but your community is undeniably dominated by liberals who are by definition pro-capitalist and ipso facto anti-communist
If you’re not a yank, why are you using their definition of liberal? In the US, liberals don’t have any socialist policy, while liberals in the rest of the world all have social liberalism. Heavy pro-DNC sentiment? What? the 13 people who downvoted you? Most of whom aren’t even regulars in this community.
I’ve also never seen anyone in this community actually defend capitalism. Capital, in its current state, is falling apart and proving itself to be unsustainable. Find me anyone who’s defending capitalism, and I’ll challenge them on that.
I was using the US definition of liberalism because we were discussing a US topic. My fault for not specifying. As for the heavy pro-DNC sentiment, i see it often. There are more Americans than any other nationality combined on Lemmy, and by extension, this community. Therefore, i see it more than I’d expect when this community seemed to have been supposed to cater more to leftists who were critical of the very radical wing.
https://lemmy.world/comment/21430350. Here’s a discussion i had with someone a while ago on this comm where they defended capitalism.
Now I’m by no means saying this is the default here, most users here are in fact very critical of capitalism, the problem, however, is that many here think they can do genuine socialist organizing within capitalist parties—who by the way have stopped at nothing to shirk their more radical counterparts. Just look at Zohran Mamdani for example, his policies are no more radical than Polanski’s Green party, but democrats were hesitant to endorse him. Nevertheless, there still exists a great many who think organising can be done through the DNC. I still use the term liberal to refer to these individuals: socialist in will, liberal in praxis.
Ah, that’s right, my b. Nah, my fault, you were right to use the US definition.
Curious that’s the same user and both posts aren’t particularly related to tankies.