Screenshot of this question was making the rounds last week. But this article covers testing against all the well-known models out there.

Also includes outtakes on the ‘reasoning’ models.

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    10 hours ago

    But natural language in service of what? If they can’t produce answers that are correct, what’s the point of using them? I can get wrong answers anywhere.

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      9 hours ago

      As OP said, LLMs are really good at generating text that is fluid and looks natural to us. So if you want that kind of output, LLMs are the way to go.
      Not all LLM prompts ask factual questions and not all of the generated answers need to be correct.
      Are poems, songs, stories or movie scripts ‘correct’?

      I’m totally against shoving LLMs everywhere, but they do have their uses. They are really good at this one thing.

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        9 hours ago

        Are poems, songs, stories or movie scripts ‘correct’?

        It’s a valid point that they can produce natural language. The Turing Test has been a thing for awhile after all. But while the language sounds natural, can they create anything meaningful? Are the poems or stories they make worth anything? It’s not like humans don’t create shitty art, so I guess generating random soulless crap is similar to that.

        The value of language produced by something that can’t understand the reason for language is an interesting question I suppose.

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          2 hours ago

          I’m with you on that. I’ve come to realize that I value a shitty stick figure that was drawn by a human much more than an AI generated ‘Mona Lisa’.

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          7 hours ago

          There are people out there whose job is to format promotional emails for companies. AIs can replace this kind of soulless work completely. We should applaud that.

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      7 hours ago

      Some of them can produce the correct answer. Of we do the test next year and they do better than humans then, isn’t it progress?

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      9 hours ago

      I’m not here defending the practical value of these models. I’m just explaining what they are and what they’re not.

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        2 hours ago

        You’re definitely running around Lemmy defending AI, Iconoclast… Might as well be honest about it

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          2 hours ago

          I’m not really interested in engaging in discussions about what you or anyone else thinks my underlying motives are. You’re free to point out any factual inaccuracies in my responses, but there’s no need to make it personal and start accusing me of being dishonest.