• TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Politely, shove it.

    Don’t tall about growth or luxury. Those are masks for what business really does, monetize and enshittify.

    It’s clear what happens when you allow that kind of behavior from businesses. The Fediverse won’t be any different, businesses of any size will ruin it.

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      So a business with only 1-3 people running it, building video games and showcasing what they’ve done shouldn’t be allowed to post on platforms like this?

      Why do you feel so strongly about even small business’ not being able to access and showcase there work? Should we also tell Linux Developers they shouldn’t use this type of platform as well? I’m sorry Mastodon Devs you can’t even use your own platform you developed… There’s a lot of flaws in this sort of logic

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        Profit seeking is a poisonous mentality that corrupts and ruins everything it touches.

        Opening the door to even a little is opening a floodgate.

        I’m not a fan of creating hard and fast rules about what size a company should have to be or anything like that, I mostly think it’s important to create a culture on the Fediverse that is inherently hostile to branding, monetization and advertising and then allow exceptions as they seem socially acceptable within that framework.

        But it’s important to build and maintain that culture first and foremost. Tumblr has done a pretty good job at that and people should learn from those communities. Being unprofitable and worthless to advertisers is very important in creating a space by humans for humans.

        Becoming a target for business, advertising and entrepreneurialship is a 1 way ticket to shitsville.

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          While I personally think if Apple tomorrow created there own Fediverse Instance where they’d post updates about there latest products it will be mass de-federated a lot like METAs Threads.

          Most brands problems would most likely be based off there interaction and usability of the systems, These are not places to post and forget, interaction is a key element to the Fediverse and things get buried if people don’t interact on here.

          You mentioned about not having a hard-line for company sizes, this has explained my point, you can’t put a hard-line down on what size a company has to be or anything, The only thing you can do is ask for interaction and a sense of the user being genuine behind the account as any account of the Fediverse.

          The Fediverse is built in a way that Advertisement is hard, at least payed advertisement that we see through Legacy Socials, pushing the ad in your face and it feeling sour. This is something I and others are trying to work out how to make things feel genuine instead of bitter, how does ones tiny company showcase what they do without making it feel corporate.

          I simply asked if there was any successful cases of the Fediverse having business’ come and stay on the Fediverse, I have since realized I already know a few such as @trakt@ruby.social or @obsidian@mas.to both amazing products I’ve been using for years and forget are actually on this amazing system. They don’t feel like ads, they post updates.

          You cannot stop people from using these systems, but you can guide them. So how would you guide these brands / companies to make it feel genuine instead of bitter.

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            This is what I’m saying, companies should not feel welcome posting on the Fediverse.

            They should feel nervous and like the fediverse is a hostile place to conduct business.

            It is only if we create that kind of culture that the Fediverse will resist becoming a piece of shit marketplace like the rest of the internet.

            Hence, fuck every brand, fuck every company.

            This is a call to action. If you see any post you so much as smell as being from a business, it’s your moral duty to attack and bully that poster. They are a threat to the human element of the platform and they should be treated as a threat.

            We have a chance, here, to prevent the same folly we’ve allowed so many other human spaces to befall. We gotta be wildly hostile to brands and companies.

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              It’s not a fuck every company though, Especially if you don’t want the rest of the internet to be around / exist. I know people in my life that won’t move across because X user is not moving across, and sometimes that’s brands.

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                “We’re the good guys” doesn’t work and isn’t true when you inevitably bring the bad guys

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                The thing is, a business, of any size, is utterly incapable of being genuine, as a rule, as their only purpose for existence is to seek profit.

                If they are being genuine, they are being honest about that and I don’t want to see their content anywhere my eyes land ever.

                If they aren’t leading with that premise, then they are being deceitful and I absolutely don’t want to see their content anywhere.