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      but unpleasant, and you’ll be miserable the whole time.

      on the one hand, mac is often virtue signaling for hipsters, on the other hand it is a unix system, so… it often works that way.

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        Hate both, but I’d run Windows over Mac any day (and I develop in both regularly since I have projects that require Windows and Mac, and will for a long time). But some of this is probably due to having to use the steaming pile of crap that is Xcode.

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          Then why use Xcode? Mac is essentially BSD under the hood so basically any Linux CLI tool works fine, and GUI applications work reasonably well with XQuartz or whatever it’s called these days.

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          Why would you be forced to use Xcode? I’ve been a developer (just not Swift) for years and have never used Xcode.

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            Swift.

            There really aren’t any other valid options for building native iOS apps.

            Luckily, we don’t really do much native iOS dev anymore, so I’m just maintaining 3 apps, and not building anything new.

            I only have to fire up the Mac for a few days every few months.

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        It’s a compromise if I’m not paying for it.

        Still I hate that the basic, like copy, search… Use a different key. I can rebind them, but it’s at each keyboard config and makes it annoying when trying to learn new ones

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        Both are big tech, donate to fascists, closed source, and a cancer to this society, the tech world, and open source.

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          Most developers I’ve seen in the field don’t care about any of that. They care if the OS is stable and they can run their programs.

          I’m not saying they shouldn’t care more, they absolutely should, but they don’t

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            3 hours ago

            I care if an OS can manage the running applications and their windows in a reasonable way, which MacOS cannot.

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            There are also enough people in tech who don’t know about Open Source.

            The percentage increases as you go away from the software domain