cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/40147434
image comparing two cars. a person calls the first car brilliant captioned [no-one is illegal on stolen land]
in the second picture he points to the other car and says “but I like this this” captioned [no-one is illegal]
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This is true, but to float a counterpoint: the “on stolen land” is a direct counter to white-supremacist ideas that settler-colonies such as the US are and have always been “white countries”, and those are the usual type of people calling immigrants “illegals”.
There’s no hyphen in “no one”
Property is theft, so the two are the same
Colonialists then: nobody is illegal
Colonialists now: cross that border and I’ll shoot you!
Wait until you hear about colonial era border disputes
no one is illegal
I get where you’re coming from, but that philosophy didn’t work too well for indigenous people, hence the longer saying…
That’s a Great Replacement talking point. People aren’t illegal, acts are. Showing up isn’t a problem, genocide and theft are.
I don’t remember it being “nobody is illegal unless invading, even if labeled ‘colonising’”.
(Europeans mostly haven’t stolen the land they are currently on but are still discriminating against immigrants, thereby making the stolen land saying unfit. I’m sure it has problems outside Europe too though.)
we still doing “all lives matter” huh?
Unrelated
People don’t suddenly become illegal just because they walk over to a different land
Not comparable. „No one is illegal on stolen land“ implies that the measures taken in the US could be justified if it wasn’t a colony. „No one is illegal“ is a widespread pro-immigrant motto in Europe.
„Black lives matter“ didn’t include anything to make the movement region-specific.I don’t agree, the context of where it’s said is important. Europe isn’t a colony and so that’s fine, but “no one is illegal” in the USA implies that colonizers are fine.
even then, the crime is the colonization, the theft, not the people being there
By that measure, “no one is illegal on stolen land” implies that the colonizers aren’t illegal on the land that they stole.
That also applies to “no one is illegal”
