At the end of the day, if I think the final product looks generic, it will affect my opinion of it. But I’m not going to assume it looks generic just based on something I read about how they’re developing it.
However their achieve it, if characters won’t have exact likenessses from the TV show - no one’s going to care, and thus actors are the models. With show’s cast as models, there’s little artistic expression involved in copying their look as best as possible, unless game goes for derivatives like drawings or cell shading. If they go for derivative looks, then having real artists in the first place would cut down on middle bullshittery of using AI.
There are a couple of actors from that show I could pick out of a lineup having seen only a few episodes, but I wasn’t even under the impression that this game would use many of the characters from the main story at all.
AFAIK show covered, some, but not all of the books, so things like other media ought to pick up the slack. Is there ANY entity that hasn’t learned from Disney ruining SW to not do that sidequest original bullshit?
One of Star Wars’ most acclaimed video games is original side stuff (KOTOR). Especially in a game where your choices can shape the outcome, it’s generally good practice to steer clear of anything that intersects with the main story, which is what I assumed would happen here.
That’s when you start completely fresh and use only one or two iconic elements that define a universe, which were sabers and mandos. Expanse is pretty grounded and honestly doesn’t really have much oomph (besides the immortals) in a way to avoid using main cast, so it kinda doesn’t work here yet.
I would imagine one could gin up a political conflict in that setting either before or after the main story, but I’ve only barely dipped my toe in. Either way, I’d be surprised if they were just retreading the main story.
If its just a “movie” or book game like Witcher - that would be perfect. Fans want to immerse and interact with the main story than see something entirely friggin unrelated.
Sure, garbage in, garbage out and all that. The autonomously generated stuff tends toward generic as an inherent byproduct of being a closed loop system. But that doesn’t mean a real artist couldn’t look at some boring ass slop and be inspired to explore new directions.
I think one of the common themes I’m circling these days is that “human in the loop” is a common concept around ensuring outputs from AI systems are acceptable, but a better way to look at it is that generative AI should never have a direct connection to final output. As inspiration or iteration, I think there’s potential value, but ultimately, whether it’s code, art, or content, a human should create what goes out. Using AI for intermediate acceleration is a much healthier approach than the “look how many people we can replace!” angle that’s so popular in tech.
This doesn’t solve any of the many other issues with generative AI these days, but it at least feels like a more sensible approach to the creative concerns.
Paper: Autonomous language-image generation loops converge to generic visual motifs
At the end of the day, if I think the final product looks generic, it will affect my opinion of it. But I’m not going to assume it looks generic just based on something I read about how they’re developing it.
However their achieve it, if characters won’t have exact likenessses from the TV show - no one’s going to care, and thus actors are the models. With show’s cast as models, there’s little artistic expression involved in copying their look as best as possible, unless game goes for derivatives like drawings or cell shading. If they go for derivative looks, then having real artists in the first place would cut down on middle bullshittery of using AI.
There are a couple of actors from that show I could pick out of a lineup having seen only a few episodes, but I wasn’t even under the impression that this game would use many of the characters from the main story at all.
AFAIK show covered, some, but not all of the books, so things like other media ought to pick up the slack. Is there ANY entity that hasn’t learned from Disney ruining SW to not do that sidequest original bullshit?
One of Star Wars’ most acclaimed video games is original side stuff (KOTOR). Especially in a game where your choices can shape the outcome, it’s generally good practice to steer clear of anything that intersects with the main story, which is what I assumed would happen here.
That’s when you start completely fresh and use only one or two iconic elements that define a universe, which were sabers and mandos. Expanse is pretty grounded and honestly doesn’t really have much oomph (besides the immortals) in a way to avoid using main cast, so it kinda doesn’t work here yet.
I would imagine one could gin up a political conflict in that setting either before or after the main story, but I’ve only barely dipped my toe in. Either way, I’d be surprised if they were just retreading the main story.
If its just a “movie” or book game like Witcher - that would be perfect. Fans want to immerse and interact with the main story than see something entirely friggin unrelated.
Sure, garbage in, garbage out and all that. The autonomously generated stuff tends toward generic as an inherent byproduct of being a closed loop system. But that doesn’t mean a real artist couldn’t look at some boring ass slop and be inspired to explore new directions.
I think one of the common themes I’m circling these days is that “human in the loop” is a common concept around ensuring outputs from AI systems are acceptable, but a better way to look at it is that generative AI should never have a direct connection to final output. As inspiration or iteration, I think there’s potential value, but ultimately, whether it’s code, art, or content, a human should create what goes out. Using AI for intermediate acceleration is a much healthier approach than the “look how many people we can replace!” angle that’s so popular in tech.
This doesn’t solve any of the many other issues with generative AI these days, but it at least feels like a more sensible approach to the creative concerns.