Their tagline is literally ‘you buy it, you own it’. But does it really grants ownership?

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    Yes. So does buying it on Steam, or anywhere else.

    Anyone claiming otherwise is LYING TO YOU.


    Edit: apparently, some of y’all are misunderstanding me, so I’ll connect the dots for you more explicitly:

    1. Anybody who claims that games are “licensed, not sold” is lying to you.
    2. Steam claims that games are “licensed, not sold.”
    3. Therefore, Steam is lying to you.

    In case it somehow still isn’t clear, this is the exact fucking polar opposite of “shilling for Steam!”


    The bottom line is this: nobody – not GOG, not Steam, not brick-and-mortar stores – gets to somehow ignore or override Federal laws like copyright law and the Uniform Commercial Code. And THE LAW SAYS that when you buy a copy of a copyrighted work, you own that copy!

    Steam can lie to you and try to frustrate your ability to exercise your property rights, but that does not mean you don’t have them!

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      You are arguing from the rights consumers are supposed to have. Everyone else is arguing from the rights consumers do have. Hope this clears up the confusion for you.

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        Just because a right is infringed upon doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

        Moreover, being subjugated under tyranny doesn’t mean you should accept the rhetorical framing of the tyrant!

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        What the fuck is wrong with you? Defending property rights is not shilling for Steam! Fuck Steam; it’s part of the problem when it comes to pushing this “licensed, not sold” bullshit!

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          If you aren’t a steam shill, why are you lying that steam gives you ownership of a game? It doesn’t. GoG does.

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            I’m not lying. Why are you lying in Steam’s favor, trying to pretend it’s entitled to powers it doesn’t have?

            Steam dishonestly tries to pretend that buying a copy of a game is somehow something other than buying that copy, but Steam is not fucking entitled to override copyright law and the uniform commercial code!

            If anything, you’re the one shilling for Steam – I’m attacking it!

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              Either you’re an AI with like 1k parameters or you’re the most confused individual I’ve met today.

              • OP asks if GOG gives you ownership
              • you say so does steam
              • I say that’s not true, you shill
              • you turbo lose your shit and say you’re attacking steam
              • I ask why you’re saying Steam supposedly grants you ownership, affirming that GoG does
              • you accuse me of being a shill for saying Steam doesn’t grant ownership

              Let’s take a step back to see if we’re on the same page

              • GoG grants you ownership of your purchases
              • Steam grants you a licence of your purchases
              • GoG good
              • Steam bad
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                Let’s take a step back to see if we’re on the same page

                • GoG grants you ownership of your purchases ← Wrong (in a minor way). Federal law itself grants you ownership of your purchases; GoG merely follows the law.
                • Steam grants you a licence of your purchases ← WRONG! Steam claims this, but Steam is lying to try to deprive you of your property rights.
                • GoG good
                • Steam bad ← Agreed, but not because games bought from them are “licensed, not sold.” Steam is bad for misrepresenting them as being “licensed, not sold” and using technical means to frustrate your ability to exercise your property rights.

                Now quit calling me confused, because my claims have been entirely consistent throughout this entire thread.

                • When you buy a copy of a copyrighted work, you own that copy of that copyrighted work. Not merely “license” it.
                • Software is not an exception to this.
                • Corporations do not have some kind of magic privilege to override Federal law, no matter how much they dishonestly claim otherwise.