Curious why you ignored disc based games? Those you actually own and no one can take them away.
And none of your examples are licensed, you actually own those items.
Why are you talking about copyright? Are you thinking that we’re talking about it owning part of the copyright or having access to it?
Or do you just not know what a license is? You realize that these are based on something in real life right? Like licenses to own guns, operate vehicles…. You don’t actually own those items, and they can be taken away. Just like a digital game!
Curious why you ignored disc based games? Those you actually own and no one can take them away.
Because I didn’t need to mention it separately. There is no meaningful difference between a disc-based game and a downloaded one; you have all the same ownership rights in both cases.
And none of your examples are licensed, you actually own those items.
Exactly! And neither is software, as you literally just admitted!
Why are you talking about copyright? Are you thinking that we’re talking about it owning part of the copyright or having access to it?
I am explicitly making as clear a distinction as I can between “holding the copyright” and “owning an individual copy” in order to emphasize that I am not talking about the former. I’m genuinely trying to be as precise as humanly possible, and I’m honestly baffled that you still somehow got it so backwards.
Or do you just not know what a license is? You realize that these are based on something in real life right? Like licenses to own guns, operate vehicles…. You don’t actually own those items, and they can be taken away. Just like a digital game!
You realize that just because something applies in one context doesn’t mean it applies the same way in some entirely different context, right?
Also, by the way, not having a license to operate a vehicle on public roads isn’t the same thing as not being allowed to own a car. Perhaps it’s you who is struggling to understand WTF you’re talking about.
There is no meaningful difference between a disc-based game
Uhh… you can resell a disc based one, doing it do a downloaded one wheter still under license or not, is all hells kind of illegal. Because one’s a license, which can usually never be sold or transferred, but each specific contract you agree to specifies this. There’s also plenty of precedence for this, so don’t even bother trying to bloviate down that alley, it’s a dead end, sorry. We know your angle and game.
You can’t even rip the disc and then try and sell that, so no, they aren’t the same thing at all, and your trying to claim they are just shows how dumb and ignorant on this matter you are.
You really have no idea why you’re talking about, you’re using terms incorrectly and are ignoring your own examples.
Uhh… you can resell a disc based one, doing it do a downloaded one wheter still under license or not, is all hells kind of illegal. Because one’s a license, which can usually never be sold or transferred, but each specific contract you agree to specifies this
That’s a textbook circular argument. You’re trying to argue that things are licenses because they’re licenses.
We know your angle and game.
What, standing up for property rights? Do you have some sort of problem with that?!
You can’t even rip the disc and then try and sell that,
Yes you can! If you don’t keep the original (or any other copy) for yourself. Then you’re actually selling your (albeit format-shifted) copy, not making new copies (plural). It’s doing things that increase the total number of people who have it that makes copyright law kick in; otherwise it’s just reselling an individual good.
And yes, the same applies to a downloaded file. It’s still just format-shifting!
If you think that’s wrong, cite the “all hella kind” of laws it breaks. Surely it’ll be easy for you, being so confident.
Curious why you ignored disc based games? Those you actually own and no one can take them away.
And none of your examples are licensed, you actually own those items.
Why are you talking about copyright? Are you thinking that we’re talking about it owning part of the copyright or having access to it?
Or do you just not know what a license is? You realize that these are based on something in real life right? Like licenses to own guns, operate vehicles…. You don’t actually own those items, and they can be taken away. Just like a digital game!
Get lost.
Because I didn’t need to mention it separately. There is no meaningful difference between a disc-based game and a downloaded one; you have all the same ownership rights in both cases.
Exactly! And neither is software, as you literally just admitted!
I am explicitly making as clear a distinction as I can between “holding the copyright” and “owning an individual copy” in order to emphasize that I am not talking about the former. I’m genuinely trying to be as precise as humanly possible, and I’m honestly baffled that you still somehow got it so backwards.
You realize that just because something applies in one context doesn’t mean it applies the same way in some entirely different context, right?
Also, by the way, not having a license to operate a vehicle on public roads isn’t the same thing as not being allowed to own a car. Perhaps it’s you who is struggling to understand WTF you’re talking about.
You first.
Uhh… you can resell a disc based one, doing it do a downloaded one wheter still under license or not, is all hells kind of illegal. Because one’s a license, which can usually never be sold or transferred, but each specific contract you agree to specifies this. There’s also plenty of precedence for this, so don’t even bother trying to bloviate down that alley, it’s a dead end, sorry. We know your angle and game.
You can’t even rip the disc and then try and sell that, so no, they aren’t the same thing at all, and your trying to claim they are just shows how dumb and ignorant on this matter you are.
You really have no idea why you’re talking about, you’re using terms incorrectly and are ignoring your own examples.
That’s a textbook circular argument. You’re trying to argue that things are licenses because they’re licenses.
What, standing up for property rights? Do you have some sort of problem with that?!
Yes you can! If you don’t keep the original (or any other copy) for yourself. Then you’re actually selling your (albeit format-shifted) copy, not making new copies (plural). It’s doing things that increase the total number of people who have it that makes copyright law kick in; otherwise it’s just reselling an individual good.
And yes, the same applies to a downloaded file. It’s still just format-shifting!
If you think that’s wrong, cite the “all hella kind” of laws it breaks. Surely it’ll be easy for you, being so confident.