• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Popularity is a bad concept for representation. We don’t need to waste any more time figuring it out.

    Natural leaders and the dynamics of unanimous rule cannot to be confused with large scaling elections that don’t find or promote these leaders. The system produces obvious garbage once scaled beyond a small group.

    Hypothetically if you could have a population perfectly informed without bias they could make a good rationale choice. This is beyond unrealistic as you scale elections though because the information required to make a good decision increases beyond what most humans are capable of.

    Much like capitalism, democracy seems only acceptable on a very small and well regulated scale which invariably grows into the monstrosity we deal with today.

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        13 hours ago

        Show me a Democratic model practiced on a large scale that has not descended into an oligarchy of corruption.

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          10 hours ago

          On the extreme end, Quakers. Consensus is clearly a democratic voting scheme, and they’ve run everything from churches to universities to states to companies with it.

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              9 hours ago

              Consensus is quite hard to corrupt by design. You trade off some substantial amount of efficiency, and most groups aren’t willing to commit to working towards it.

              They believe everyone’s got some good in them, and that good will end up getting the important decisions to happen. I note that they don’t seem to actually control for this belief all that hard. Perhaps anyone who doesn’t believe gets too impatient and moves on.

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                9 hours ago

                Yes, I looked it up. A non adversarial voting system based around consensus. This is similar to a system I strive for in my workplace.

                Thanks for pointing this out, while extreme it does offer some good insight especially for someone who is over the first past the post system like me.