I understand that some of the criticism comes from conservatives but the sentiment seems to extend far beyond thst. Of course, I understand it when it’s forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?

  • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    12 hours ago

    I think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work. It’s incredibly dangerous. Men may hurt you. They may stalk you. They may give you a std.
    Sometimes the woman agrees to a specific service and the man forces her to do something she said she didn’t want to do.

    It’s not like they can go to the police.

    Police will just say “well that’s what you get for being a whore”.

    Trans women in sex work have even higher rates of violence and murder.

    Men (usually young) are also subjected to the same risks as women.

    Also just because it’s easy doesn’t mean it’s the best long term option

    I mean most of the problems in this world are caused by people wanting things the easy way even if it makes things harder later.

    Do sex work in your 20s instead of developing a career. Then when you are too old and 40 with no job prospects and no skills, and no one wants you. What then ?

      • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        9 hours ago

        How does making sex work legal help a 40 year old with no skills or job experience?

        Decriminalizing sex work is much more effective at reducing crime on the sex workers.

        If you don’t believe me, look into the Netherlands.

        They have a huge problem with sex trafficking because it’s legal to sell sex there.

        It doesn’t protect anyone. It encourages sex trafficking and pimping. Especially for foreign victims and young girls.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_Netherlands

        In 2017, it was estimated by the Dutch National Rapporteur on Trafficking in Human Beings and Sexual Violence against Children that more than 6,000 people in the Netherlands fall victim to human trafficking each year.[6][7] Two thirds of the people trafficked, about 4,000 people per year, fall victim to sexual slavery and abuse.[6] This group consisted largely of Dutch women, including minors (1,320 girls each year) who were preyed upon by so-called “lover boys”.[7] The other 2,000 victims of human trafficking were largely foreigners who were put to work by organized crime groups.[6]

        https://humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/the-audacity-of-tolerance-a-critical-analysis-of-legalized-prostitution-in-amsterdams-red-light-district/

        I know it sounds like legalizing it would help sex workers. But the reality is that it doesn’t.

        Objectification of bodies never leads to good ends.

        https://eclj.org/geopolitics/eu/legal-prostitution-and-human-trafficking-in-the-netherlands?lng=en

        How about instead we invest in free education and job training and pay people a living wage so that the dangerous sex work isn’t their best option for survival.

    • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
      21·
      9 hours ago

      think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work.

      As do I. Friends and family both. And I have never heard a sex worker say any of the things you ascribe to them.

      Do sex work in your 20s instead of developing a career. Then when you are too old and 40 with no job prospects and no skills, and no one wants you. What then ?

      I’m wondering if you actually know that many people in the industry. Bcs I’m middle aged, everyone I know who does SW is close to my age, so they’re all 35+, mostly over 40, and doing fine.

      But if that weren’t the case, the same question can be asked of anyone doing manual labor, once your body breaks down (which happens a lot earlier for manual laborers), what do you do?

      To borrow an old quote: If you think that the prostitute sells her body and the coal miner does not, your view of labor is clouded by your puritanical view of sex.

      • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        8 hours ago

        Okay so you don’t actually know anyone who has aged out of sex work .

        My “puritanical views”. Is this a joke?

        My stance is I’m against human trafficking. I’m against pimps. I’m against workers being hurt by johns. I’m against the promotion of misogyny and objectification of people. I’m against capitalism turning human connection into just another thing to exploit for money. I’m especially against the harms it perpetuates in society.

        And I’m against people resorting to the high risk sex work because it’s the easy choice when there should be better options for people.

        People have more value that tits and ass. Or a hole.

        They actually do.

        You can pretend the risks and statistics I gave you aren’t real.

        It doesn’t make them false.

        Also I certainly don’t appreciate your strawman what-aboutism argument.

        We aren’t talking about people who do labor jobs. We are talking about sex workers.

        Jesus. How can you possibly believe that sex work is good for women. I mean. Seriously. How fucked up is it to believe that ?

        Why would you support the systems that harm women the most. Why. ? Do you hate women ? I can’t see why anyone would think sex work is a great career opportunity for women except people like Epstein and trump.

        Cause those are the types of people that benefit from women being exploited this way.