There is now an Actually Infuriating community on Lemmy! Post things that are beyond just mildly infuriating. It’s only mildly infuriating that someone didn’t make this sooner!

Actually Infuriating

      • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        51·
        8 days ago

        I appreciate it. I have some experience modding here, but not in a community like this, which has the potential to bring our the worst in people! I set rules that should be broad enough to do exactly that. I have high hopes, and it fills a need.

      • Shizrak@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        7 days ago

        How is this upvoted so much? This is fucking insane.

        “Oh, just ban whoever even if they didn’t break any rules”

          • Shizrak@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            13·
            7 days ago

            Oh I’m sure you have a way to justify your corrupt authoritarianism. I don’t care what your reasoning is. If you ban people without them breaking rules, then the only actual rule is “don’t upset the power tripping bastards”, which I strongly disagree with.

                  • Shizrak@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    1·
                    7 days ago

                    The statements

                    “don’t be afraid to ban somebody just because they didn’t explicitly violate a rule”

                    And

                    “Oh, just ban whoever even if they didn’t break any rules”

                    Use different words but end up in the same place.

                    So how is it grossly misrepresenting anything?

                    Perhaps you can give an example of when someone didn’t break any rules and you felt justified banning them and why, and maybe I’ll sympathize a little.

      • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzEnglish
        27·
        8 days ago

        If people can get away with harming the community without breaking the rules, then just change the rules.

        If you can’t think of any reasonable rules that would ban their behaviour, maybe they aren’t doing anything wrong and it’s just that you personally don’t like it.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzEnglish
            21·
            7 days ago

            “be nice” is a broad rule set. You need rule sets with clear expectations. If your rules are clear, then you won’t feel guilty for banning someone, and they don’t have a good excuse when they appeal. If you choose vague rules, people will submit perfectly good appeals which you have to turn down, and you’ll waste everyone’s time.

            A ruleset is a machine. Video games are machines made out of rules, and so are board games. Board games just run on brains instead of microchips. A legal code is exactly the same, just more important. Make a good machine and moderation won’t even require your conscious mind. You can breeze through it according to the process without expending any mental energy.

            Spend mental energy judging every situation individually, and you’ll either burn out or become a tyrant. Break your rules, and you either break your community or break yourself.

                  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzEnglish
                    22·
                    7 days ago

                    Good. Moderators need limits on their powers. You should need to make the cage bigger in order to deal with the edge cases. And when you make the cage bigger, the community should have an opportunity to question that. That’s anarchy. That’s responsibility.

                    It’s better to have an unmoderated community full of trolls than a community with tyrant mods. That’s the same philosophy as “it’s better that a hundred guilty go free than one innocent is imprisoned”. Obviously a community with good mods is best, but if mods can’t follow their own rules, they shouldn’t follow no rules.