• sibachian@lemmy.ml
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    15 hours ago

    whats still p2p today? seems like mostly everything was updated to run through corporate servers. i mean heck chats no longer has the capabilities they used to when things were p2p; now, a chat has like one single feature, to chat, and half the time that doesn’t even work because their servers are down lol.

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      2 hours ago

      What do you mean by chat? Because IRC has never been p2p. What existed as p2p 20 years ago and doesn’t today? I think they are all still here. It’s users that turned elsewhere but the p2p networks are still alive and well.

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      2 hours ago

      whats still p2p today? seems like mostly everything …

      Sure 99.99% of traffic might still go through Netflix and Spotify and YouTube… but even .01% of traffic going through The Pirate Bay or CloudTorrents or Anna’s Archive (which does provide torrents) it’s still billions of files shared by millions of people, directly, from their computers to yours.

      FWIW to get a very rough approximation, according to https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-is-no-longer-the-king-of-upstream-internet-traffic-240315/ BitTorrent is about ~5% of worldwide traffic.

      My own perspective is that… not only streaming works well but there is also a huge economical incentive. YouTube started by facilitating the sharing of video content, including pirate one, BUT also made a way to earn money through ads. TikTok did the same with an ever bigger promise of fame. So I think the mechanism changed, namely it’s not anymore about sharing content “just” to share but it’s also with the hope of making an income from it. It’s probably important to disentangle all that before comparing too much the trends.

      PS: my own P2P (optional for transfer and with registrations closed, so mostly for me to broadcast my own content) video server https://video.benetou.fr/ relying on PeerTube to give also an example without any pirated content.