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thank you, i think i saw that somwhere before. is it really true that the haressment is made up? like i honestly dont know

The one making the claims should provide the evidence.

and does it really has an impact on the eco system? i never really thought abou it…

Yes, it pushes for a Google monopoly in hardware, it creates a false narrative that there is no difference in privacy and/or security between alternative Android versions and ones by vendors. This further entrenches Google’s control of Android as it limits the options for Android users.

And i guess fair point that this is a security flaw considering the phone users beeing targeted… But like i still kinda think hardware backed security is important and also very crucial is, that the more devices they supporty the less recourses they have… I think considering how long it is since pixel 10 released and it is still not supported, would make me guess that they dont have like any free time really to do it at all ^^

I do believe Google has taken decisions that forced them to look for a new OEM, I am not sure if does affect the Pixel 10.

No GrapheneOS is not just calling them out on lack of security.

It’s apparently from their discord, so it took me a while to find it again.

It’s not about the personality of it’s directors, it’s about it’s effect on the (alternative) Android ecosystem as a whole, which is not just about security but also privacy and user control.

Even with regards to security, their choice of limiting devices apparently makes their users targets for extra scrutiny and harassment. That does have actual implications for people whose threat model includes authorities unless they already are guaranteed to be targets.

I don’t need a phone, GrapheneOS needs one now that Google is trying to force them out. I wonder if their new phone will actually meet all the requirements, if it comes out.

As for complaining, GrapheneOS is the one bitching about other Android versions existing since forever. Now, they 've started making unsubstantiated claims of them attacking them somehow.

Yes, before Google made phone on it’s own they supported some Nexus devices (google-partnered) and the Samsung Galaxy S4.

No it’s not. This is a recent development that has not yet actually come to fruition. It may exist in 2026.

Before that GrapheneOS dismissed any idea of targeting other phones than the ones build by one of the most anti-privacy companies on earth, that seeks to consolidate control of Android.

In my opinion both the evident ego of of the project lead as well as his naivety (tethering the project to Google) are huge red flags despite any assumed technical superiority.

Existing, probably.

Just like they asked you to upgrade to ie in the 90s a d early 00s.

Well it’s science fiction. Being ‘genetically perfect’ (rofl) will impart less of an advantage than actually existing, mundane factors such as wealth and which country you were born in. Hell, the biggest advantage they could get is making sure their children is of the ‘right’ color.

I do not even think the biggest assholes like say Musk would genetically modify their children. He already thinks he is perfect.

I can also think of a few factors that would disadvantage poor people more than lack of eugenics.

Lack of healthcare. Climate change leading to people having to abandon their homeland and also exacerbating another factor. Bad nutrition. Bad education in combination with disinformation by wealth controlled media.

Genetic modification is not really a problem. It could also help some people if we fix our politics and make sure people get access to healthcare based on needs rather than means.

Seriously, fiction is not necessarily a good guide for politics.

It’s fiction.

You can find actual discrimination based on genetics or wealth or class into the present and past of the real world.

Why would a FOSS program, barely able to pay for developers and/or infrastructure give away money for marketing?

It’s highly unlikely that the extra users will result in enough donations to even recoup the funds or significant volunteered development.

How the fuck is a floppy the last physical incarnation of saving a file? HDDs and SSDs are not made out ether.

If you mean save media you commonly interact with, USB thumb drives still exist. Considering computers becoming much more commonplace in their era they probably have been actually used by more people than floppies.

I agree that Play integrity is a huge problem and a way for Google to maintain control of Android.

However a Linux phone wouldn’t solve that at least in the beginning.

The devs who don’t allow apps to run on devices that do not pass Play integrity are unlikely to make a Linux phone app.

That does not make sense. Even in the worse scenarios Android would be more open than Apple and there would be Android options unaffected by this. Not many and not the most mainstream, though certainly more so than non-Android Linux phones.

But compared to a picking a non-Android Linux phone it makes even less sense. Unfortunately it’s true.

Unfortunatel, even here on Lemmy, that is a not techier/fossier than the mainstream, a lot of people say they will switch to… IOS.

Doubtful, phone vendors already had access to binary blobs to run Linux (Android) on them.

It’s no surprise Valve who is buying those SOCs is also provided with them.

There are android phones outside Google’s garden that will remain outside it’s walls. Apple’s walled garden vs Google’s future wall garden is a false dilemma.

I think I misread a statement about existing users not having their settings changed possibly on an update?

For individuals using JetBrains IDEs with commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds who do not explicitly consent to the new data collection model – nothing changes.

Am I missing something? Non-paid versions also have to opt-in, no?

Delusional apple fanboy.

I don’t need a my phone to be a ‘flagship’. I am not an influencer. I also wonder what loads are you running on a phone that you meet performance issues.

You can get an android with microSD and 3.5mm jack for 250€.

You can still run all the software you want. Adblockers, torrent clients, emulators, even… browsers! There will still be new android phones that won’t suffer those limitations. They will also be cheaper than iphones.

Don’t get me wrong android is in a bad trajectory, it’s true that’s Google has been enshitificating as much as it can get away with. It’s still light years ahead of iOS.

If anybody cares for privacy or control of their devices, saving Android, even in alternative versions/vendors, is a much more viable option than switching to iPhone.