• Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 days ago

    We need more native pollinators, and honey bees are very good at outcompeting them once they’re introduced, threatening biodiversity and thus ecosystems.

      • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        6 days ago

        That doesn’t mean that introducing them in unnatural numbers isn’t harmful to biodiversity and other native pollinators

        • 9point6@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          6 days ago

          That’s not what we’re talking about though, we have a declining bee population problem that needs intervention to save

          • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            ·
            6 days ago

            That was exactly what I was talking about. Honey bees are just one very specific type of bees, and they’re replacing the other ones.

            • LwL@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              5 days ago

              Yes and no. Yes, they compete with the other ones and due to domestication have very high population, but also the same factors endangering honey bees (insecticides, monocultures) also endanger other bee species. So while “give the honey bees more sugar water so they survive” would be horrible foe ecological diversity, actually adressing the underlying factors would largely also benefit other species.

              I wouldn’t even be surprised if to some degree that still applied to places where they’re invasive tbh

          • FundMECFS@lemmy.cafe
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            12
            ·
            6 days ago

            Yes. Every type of bee except honeybees is declining. In part because humans are constantly favouring honeybees.

      • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        Breeding a native species in unnatural numbers is also a way of that species outcompeting other native species and harming biodiversity

      • Cethin@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        5 days ago

        You can narrow it down to just the Americas. The European honey bee (and subspecies) are native all across Europe, Asia, and Africa I believe.