• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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      1 hour ago

      Anecdotally speaking, I walk around town for exercise and I’ve crossed paths with a disproportionate number of Pit bulls/Pit mixes and the only dog to ever bite me while I was out was a goddamn Bichon Frisé.

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      14 hours ago

      Lol, what is this dumb shit? Obviously you can rank it when pitbulls are consistently the breed with the highest violence and attacks.

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        12 hours ago

        I think it’s a casual argument. People are saying pitbulls are not inherently more violent, they just tend to be the dog of choice for people who want violent (guard) dogs. They are then taught violent behaviors by their owners.

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          10 hours ago

          I think you meant causal but I get your point.

          I believe that dog breeds have inherent traits that they are bred for. Yes of course the nature vs nurture argument always comes into play but it’s not a coincidence some dogs love water and will naturally point without any training and others won’t.

          Also that’s not even getting into the physical make up of a pit bull. They just are more dangerous by that alone, higher bite force, harder to get them to let go, fat head, big chomps - I think it’s irresponsible and morally reprehensible for them to be bred.

          Short of mass euthanasia they are not going away but I wholeheartedly believe they shouldn’t be rehomed or kept in shelters so I suppose inevitably my belief would lead to them being euthanized instead of ever adopted out.

          There is no good solution and I get people have pitbulls that don’t attack or harm people but their proclivity for violence is well documented and understood. It’s just that people would rather believe their feels over facts and black and white statistics.

      • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
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        8 hours ago

        The first dog to bite me was a schnauzer.

        They’re obviously inherently violent and must all be put down.

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          7 hours ago

          Your opinion is what it is. Facts are pitbulls are responsible for more and the worst dog attack outcomes in the USA. I don’t really give a fuck if your feelings and opinion are wrong. You can choose to remain ignorant, that’s on you.

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            5 hours ago

            The most unfriendly dog I ever walked as a volunteer for a dog rescue was a black lab named Charlie. Instantly wanted to tear the throat out of anyone who looked at him.

            Black labs are inherently violent. They should all be put down.

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              You know damn well we’re talking about aggregate numbers and breed specific traits, like being bred to be aggressive. I’m not acting like a single dog is what I’m talking about and your rebuttal of a single dog vs talking about trends and large numbers across the country is disingenuous.

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                Corgis are herding dogs. They’re bred to nip at the heels of animals like sheep. They’ll do this to children, too. Toddlers.

                They’re bred this way on purpose. They’re inherently violent and should all be put down.

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                  Touched a nerve with ya, eh? It’s funny you think a Corgi occasionally nipping, which is easily trained out, is somehow equivalent to a mauling by a pitbull.

                  I get it you’re just upset that you own or love pit bills and can’t just see how much of a menace they are to other dogs and people. Maybe it’s just a coincidence that most of the dogs that snap suddenly on kids are pit mixes.

                  But I’ve seen first hand the difference between a pitbull attack and those of other dogs, we all know which we would rather be on the end of. We all know which causes more harm and destruction. Bury your head in the sand, that’s fine.

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                    Yeah, man. I’ve completely lost my shit and you’re cool as a cucumber.

                    Not sure why you support dog attacks on toddlers. Seems wrong to me.

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      Cool, back that up with data then, because my numbers are fact. Yours seem like something a child would have written.

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        lol it’s the asshole owners. Pits with good owners have no issues, it’s why it’s not 100% of pits.

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          14 hours ago

          every pit i’ve met has been a huge sweetie, and i’m instinctively scared of dogs since i got bit when i was a small child. i think they can smell it and turn on the love, kind of like when a cat can tell you’re allergic and wants to make you more allergic.

          english bulldogs, on the other hand, i am not comfortable with. maybe it’s because the one family in town who has them are assholes.