• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    My wife is very progressive and believes in human rights. Her Facebook feed went conservative about a week ago now with constant right wing propaganda.

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      14 hours ago

      FB has been normally Right wing propaganda arm for ru, for like a decade. i think they might have ramped it up. plus AI bots are probably running the site anyways.

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        7 hours ago

        Truth, I was in the boy to alt-right pipeline cause Facebook targets literally everybody with these obtrusive ads and logic void arguments that cause brain rot. I was 15 going on hate crime because a popular Facebook post told me I was an alpha, ten years before this beta/alpha shit hit the mainstream. I’m a much more reserved adult but I’m so depressed my family still takes part in social media. I feel like I don’t have friends because I’m not on insta like what hell did we turn into

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        6 hours ago

        I have asked her to get off of Facebook for awhile, but she is reluctant because her whole family uses it as their primary form of communication.

        I ditched Facebook finally during COVID. I had already known it was a garbage platform, but I was feeling similarly because a lot of people I knew used it. The same thing happened to my feed though and I started getting a ton of anti-vax content.

        What was worse is because I am pro-health and medical technology I advocated for people to be safe. I started getting death threats by friends of friends. I was flabbergasted and decided to delete my account then and there. If Facebook could turn people anti-vax and pro-murder I had to leave.

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          Yeah the people become awful on it. But then there is also the data collection and the active political manipulation by the platform itself. Not to mention directly funding Zuckerberg and his plans.

          I never was on Facebook, I saw it as a bad idea when it came out. But I understand how many people including friends or family use it. I am pretty blunt: they support Trump, they support billionaires, they support fascism. Both figuratively and literally. Zuck just purchased 11 homes to make yet another compound. The money is from people participating. There is no mincing of words on this, particularly now. Fortunately people are beginning to see that they are getting less of what they asked for (friends and family updates) and that seems to be annoying them enough to at least consider other options. Its harder for them to understand how much of their information had been slanted or even hidden from them.

          I know it is hard. Thanks for sharing that you work in a field were you could see how manipulation and non critical thinking can make everybody seems so crazy. COVID was so full of lies and nonsense it was unreal. I lost a lot of people that I thought would never believe in Qanon or conspiracy and I think I can tie a straight line back to Facebook.

          The next target is getting people off Instagram, and those folks are dug in even harder.

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            So does purchasing groceries at Walmart, but many Americans have no choice in that matter.

            I do appreciate that you had a more empathetic comment for the guy whose girlfriend is still on Facebook. Thank you for having the civility to not call her a fascist sympathizer to his face. But don’t worry, your true feelings are safe with me.

            This is not how you make allies btw.

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              We are way beyond finding allies. Call it what it is.

              Does Walmart actively distort your news, your information, your opinions? Does it select what you see to push an agenda? Does it require yo to provide information about who you are and who your friends are?

              I have a distaste for people shopping at wallmart, but this is beyond that.

              Remember, there is nothing Facebook provides that anyone needs. It is a choice.

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        9 hours ago

        How else you get big bucks from sellimg surveillance tech to the state? Not with principled politicians.

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          10 hours ago

          It’s almost as though most of the techbros are fascists who read about half of Atlas Shrugged and think it makes them smart.

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            The left had so many things they hated that the right manipulated them into cancelling every single celebrity with a skeleton in their closet. This made all of the terrified. At the same time the right showed they will defend and enrich anyone who even looks their way. The left alienated everyone they could, the right embraced them and offered a safe space. This isn’t complicated. It isn’t Atlas Shrugged. It’s basic human nature and social awareness. The left bought right into so many poisoned apples.

            I read through the comments. Literally someone below is even saying “Tech bros are all fascist sympathizers”. I like tech. Do I now say fuck the left because that’s me I like tech and therefore I am a fascist sympathizer? Like its unreal how the left labels things and then has no awareness why they have lost people who traditionally would have been leaning left. I don’t think there ever will be any self awareness on this either.

            I can’t imagine the mentality of walking around and saying everything and everyone is a piece of shit and then at the end of the day going “why is nobody supporting me”. People are not fascist or Nazis or whatever because they are helping Trump. They just hate all of you. A lot of the world does.

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            10 hours ago

            Sure, but what? All the tech-savvy Americans are fascist sympathizers? No actually bright and plugged-in people in the tech world?

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              9 hours ago

              Fascist techbros were already somewhere between wealthy and ultra wealthy.

              There are plenty of non-fascist tech-savvy Americans, they just don’t control Scrooge McDuck amounts of money.

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                9 hours ago

                Breaking things online isn’t expensive. The asymmetry is the point. In the digital arena, knowledge scales faster than money.

                Organize. Identify fascist sympathizing corporations, organizations, churches, NPOs- infrastructure disruption, financial sabotage, data exposure…

                Even for those who aren’t “hackers,” why is there not a massive indimidation campaign against MAGA trash? Catfish, get receipts, out cheaters, perverts, and pedos to their families and communities. Find the “apolitical” folks who LARP like Nazis on Twitter. Share their Nazi shit with their employers.

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                9 hours ago

                Okay so… everyone else is just… allowing it? Nobody going on the offense? Obviously Americans have no stomach for the violence that WILL be necessary- so what’s the excuse for the total lack of cyberwarfare?