It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

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    I think Philip was referring to the venom and hostility on display from some lately. I said something similar to pug last night. To be clear it isn’t you or anything you’ve done.

    And I fully understand the recoiling at some of the hyper reflexive venom on display from a few when anything regarding AI is brought up. It’s a tool, and neither good or bad on its own. But some squeal like drama queens if you even bring it up.

    Conversely the other day I had someone from your instance call me, someone who would at least be a syndicist a shit-lib. Because I made a point of calling for solidarity and mutual aid, pointing out that our failures to do so are part of what has led us to the current points of crisis we find ourselves in. I had a bit of a chuckle at the tanky talk. But it wasn’t something completely isolated. Though again I’m gonna reiterate. None of this involves you. And you aren’t their keeper. They are adults who can make their own decisions and mistakes.

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      Ye, we obviously can have some acerbic users as well, can’t avoid it 12k registrations. But if someone is too toxic consistently, we tend to get rid of them. Still doesn’t make the instance tankie thought 😅

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        But if someone is too toxic consistently, we tend to get rid of them.

        What if they are admins that seem to follow someone or at least constantly be needlessly rude and aggressive towards and lie about a certain individual?

        (Not to make any claims or anything about dbzer0 being tankie)

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            So, if there is a feedback loop where if dbzer0 users are ultimately okay with an admin harassing people, then the toxicity can persist? As long as they can convince others with lies then the admin can get away with it? That “tend to” in my quote seems to be doing some real heavy lifting, from my perspective.

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              You’d prefer that one person decide by fiat what’s OK or not? I don’t know about you but I find democracy superior to dictatorship, even when nominally “benevolent” .

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                So, obvious harassment and toxicity needs to be put to a vote for any action to be taken? Yeah, I’m going to have to disagree on that one.

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                  Clearly, it’s not “obvious” at all. Again, we anarchists tend to prefer democracy over dictatorship.

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                    I wasn’t necessarily referring only to the specific circumstance. I was also pointing out the flaw in the logic of “only democracy”.

                    Again, my point was that a common feedback loop and/or an alignment of a person’s toxicity can easily protect someone from justice. Similar to what is happening to the US political parties, particularly the Republican party. Plenty of people align and agree with what is happening and thus it is allowed to continue and even escalate.

                    As long as someone can paint a better picture and have a following to support then, then a person can get away with seemingly anything at dbzer0. Just gotta get those votes from the people willing and able to participate during the voting period.