• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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      9 days ago

      “China is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Uyghurs, but it’s nothing like the genocide Israel is waging”, saying that Chinese influence in Myanmar is a more serious violation by the PRC than the Uyghur genocide is, and leveling a judgement of “PTB” - “Power Tripping Bastard” - towards the moderator of this comm for banning someone who was literally denying the Uyghur genocide.

      Combined, that’s pretty distinctly defending Uyghur genocide denial, and I would say right up on the border of denying Uyghur genocide themselves.

      If I said, “Israel is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Palestinians, but it’s nothing like the genocide the Nazis waged”, would you regard that as:

      A. Borderline genocide denial of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by reducing the ongoing genocide to something that is simply ‘shitty and authoritarian’ while noting that ‘real’ genocide is more than that

      OR

      B. Just making casual comparisons

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        9 days ago

        No, I get their point that just because you’re comparing two genocides doesn’t make either of them “not a big deal”.

        Although, imho, comparing genocides does seem like a kinda shitty thing to do for the same reason you don’t respond to “I’ve had a traumatic and exhausting day” with “Oh yeah? Well my day was WAY worse!”.

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          1 million deaths is child’s play compared to the black plague, WWI and WWII

          It must be ok to kill 1 million people then

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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        8 days ago

        Pug has been relentlessly defending the Democrats and relativising their unwavering support of Israel and its Genocide with the whole Trump is worst “hence” those who didn’t vote for the Democrats and their version of Genocide support de facto voted for Trump and his “worse” version of Genocide and “hence” are responsible for what’s happenning in Gaza.

        They are an extremelly tribalist US Democrat Party member/supporter totally disconnected from objective reality and logic when it comes to anything related to that party, what its leaders say and the policy of the US under that party.

        If due to being an extreme tribalist US Democrat Party member one absolutelly believes with zero skepticism in anything coming from their tribe’s “chiefs” be it directly or written in the News Media associated with that party (such as the NY Times) is “God’s honest truth” with no taint of Propaganda, given those leaders’ posture relative to China (whom they see as an adversary) and Israel (whom they unwaveringly support) its is absolutelly logical that one who believes their words are perfectly and indisputably true would believe pretty the worst possible things about China and the best possible things about Israel they read in US Media as “perfectly and undisputable true” which because of the very high level of Propaganda in the US means they would likely believe quite distorted takes on both nations.

        The slant and the quality of propaganda coming from the US Democrat Party and its Media both against China and in favour of Israel is such that it makes sense that anybody who does not at all question the truthfullness of it would genuinelly believe that the Uyghur Genocide is actually worse than the Gaza Genocide given that they’ve been fed a steady diet of a subtlety-free slant on Israel as being good people who are the victims of terrorists and China being horrible authoritarian mosters and their perception of reality has thus been profoundly pulled away from objective reality on both sides to the point of them actually crossing.

        Naturally, for such a person anybody who does not accept such information on China and Israel as absolutelly and indisputably true with no propaganda taint whatsoever, must be under the influence of some foreign dictatorship’s propaganda (the idea that such people might just be highly skeptical of US press and politicians doesn’t even “compute” in the mind of the extreme tribalist), and since nowadays it’s a far too obvious mark of being a mindless US tribalist muppet to call those people “Commies”, our Pug calls them “Tankies” instead since at the moment that’s the more socially acceptable version of that older insult.

        Lord.