I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.
I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.
Dont forget the past, lest youre doomed to repeat it.
In 1950s everyone learned the horrors of a communist system, and now 70ish years later, those with 1st hand experience are mostly dead.
I mean, yall confuse me. In your opinion, should we not have fought communism in the 50s?
In the 1950s, McCarthyite propagandists were spinning tall-tales and mythmaking about the world’s most effective system at rapidly improving living conditions and scientific development. 70ish years later, with the soviet archives (somewhat) opened up, we have much better evidence at just how awful the lies of the US Empire were, which was busy exporting genocide and terrorism worldwide in order to plunder and dominate the world.
There’s no confusion here, the US Empire was the evil side in the Cold War, and evil won out. From genocide against Koreans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, coups in Chile against democratically elected presidents in favor of dictators like Pinochet, brutal trade embargoes against countries like Cuba that dared to implement a more human-focused system, the US Empire was and still remains the most brutal and evil empire in history. Thankfully, imperialism is crumbling and this evil country is nearing its end. Hopefully after it falls, a socialist country can take its place.
Im sorry but I have to harp on this statement again.
I dont think your wrong that there is no confusion, if course America was the good side in the cold war. Russia literally almost started ww3 a few times, but saved by a few good men acting against orders if the russian empire.
Literally practically all of America would disagree with you? I think professors and scholars would disagree with you. I think historians and theologians would disagree with you.
Ahhh the reason you see no confusion is because all you hear is the propaganda from one side. Maybe try broadening your intake of information.
No, the USSR was consistently on the side of disarmament. The US Empire constantly refused disarmament, and was willing to first-strike the USSR, which the USSR never pushed for. The USSR was not an empire either, it did not function by international plunder.
If your point is that I only hear propaganda from one side, that side is the pro-US Empire side. There’s no “communist propaganda” in schooling, work, media, etc. Everything I grew up in and work in is meant to reinforce that status quo.
If we are comparing the two globally, the USSR was a friend to the global south while the US Empire has friends in the global north, ie imperialist countries in Europe and a handful elsewhere.
My only point is that your statement that:
Is just flat out wrong… there is a tremendous amount of confusion. I can’t even get you to understand this one simple point. Ive said it multiple times.
Good night young man
I’m aware that the standard opinion in western countries is pro-imperialist and anti-communist. Among the actual hard data we have, it’s irrefutable that socialist countries have been responsible for the greatest improvements in quality of life for the greatest number of people in the shortest timespan possible. It’s also irrefutable that the USSR was de-escalationary the entire Cold War while the US Empire was for escalation, considered dropping over a dozen nukes on Korea, etc. These are documented and accessible facts.
You have no idea how old I am, either, you just wanted to add a condescending jab because I refused to dox myself.
Whatever… youre fully indoctrinated into your bit. Thats fine. But you can’t even just focus on something simple. I have no idea how old you are physically, but I think I understand well how old you are mentally.
Im curious, how old are you? And im guessing you have been an American from birth? I’d appreciate it if you would indulge me… not trying to dox you
Edit: i am 41yo male east coast America
Not going to state my age. I am a Statesian, yes, that’s as far as I’m willing to state.
… you cant/won’t reveal your approximate age?
No one cares… no one is going to look for you.
No, I won’t, not to entertain you. There’s no point you could make of any relevance knowing my age anyways.
Im sorry, I really was just curious, not trying to make a point about anything.
Why? Do you normally ask people what age they are online?
…no? You hold certain opinions and I wonder if those are maybe formed more from just life experience of education? I dont know, it hold some sort of relevant value i believe but it isnt that big a deal. I mean 20s 30s 40s 50s? I dont need an exact age anc im not going to judge you by it
Its sentences like this that hurt your argument critically.
“There’s no confusion here” ? You sure about that?
Yes, I’m sure. Based on what we factually know, the US Empire was a brutal exporter of death and misery while it plundered the world. The soviets were responsible for the largest and most significant improvements in quality of life in history, and supporting liberation struggles world-wide. I’m aware that anti-communists exist, and that anti-communism is the status quo in the US Empire. I’m also aware that that’s because of decades of propagandizing and the fact that the US Empire needs imperialism to function.
Im not surprised but its wild how you talk about some of this stuff. You talk literally like an enemy of America. If you could leave and have a decent standard of living in a different country, would you do it?
I have family here. I could absolutely have a higher standard of living if I moved to China, for example, but my family is here. I’d rather the US Empire become socialist than move myself, and more and more people agree with me.
You are on a platform made by communists, there are a bunch of us here. Mostly on instances Lemmy.world censors for you, like Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net.