• Getitupinyerstuffin'@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Look, I dont mean to upset anyone, what i said is true, its not hateful at all, just medical truth… dont freak out because I said “no man had ever had a baby”… im sorry if that sound hateful to you

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      13 hours ago

      People who understand medical science don’t use the term “medical truth.”

      People who understand medicine know the difference between sex and gender.

      You said way more than “no man had ever had a baby.” Which is also not entirely true, trans men have gotten pregnant.

      If you’re trying to say “no male human has ever gotten pregnant” well, that’s a bit fuzzy, too, if you consider everyone with an XY chromosome “male.”

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2190741/

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        trans men have gotten pregnant.

        Yeah… trans men. Meaning, people that were born female. No one born male has ever been impregnated, no womb. No one born female has ever impregnated someone, no testicles. And im trying to be polite, try not to be offended but imo, that is the most crucial part, that means no has ever actually changed gender, imo. Anyone can have surgery and change their appearance, or take drugs to change how they feel, but does that really mean someone has changed changed sex? To me, not in the most defining way it hasn’t. I really hope im not missing off anyone too much. Im been as nice and cordial but plainly about my opinion. And thats all this is, my opinion.

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          I’m not offended. I’m disagreeing because your opinion is public.

          Unfortunately, you’re still conflating sex with gender. Gender is performative while sex is biological, and neither are dichotomous or fixed. That’s not my opinion, that is the modern, scientific understanding.

          You focused on one point in my reply and ignored the rest. You said men don’t get pregnant, and “man” is a gender, not a sex. People taxonomically called men have gotten pregnant, so that’s incorrect.

          The paper I linked was about genetic males getting pregnant, to prove that both men and genetic males can get pregnant. I have more peer reviewed research and on changing both sex and gender, if you’re interested.

          Are you open reading more on the subject and amending your opinion, or are you more interested in being right and holding onto your views? If it’s the latter, there isn’t a point to this conversation. A conversation which started when you told a trans person they can’t change gender.