- cross-posted to:
- gaming@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- gaming@lemmy.ml
Announcing new Steam Hardware from Valve: Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and Steam Frame are coming in 2026. Just like Steam Deck, all three devices are optimized for Steam and designed for players to get even more out of their Steam library.
All 3 new announced hardware looks good to me! Although I would probably have less need for the Machine because I already have a (old) gaming PC. I’ll have to compare benchmarks. I’m most excited for the VR set.
dont expect much from the machine performance wise given its specs (basically assume about ps5 performance)
the vr headset though is actually the more interesting product when it comes to effort put into it.
curious to see how much the snapdragon 8 gen 3 handles linux arm to x86 performance. ive seen the same chipset for android arm to x86 performance (see arm based chinese handhelds like Ayn Odin, using game native/game hub)
pitching the headset as both a vr device and what is essentially a monitor/all in one is a choice.
Thanks for estimating that will be similar to PS5 performance.
I’d be surprised to see PS5 level performance from something much smaller and with much less venting…
It’s not that much smaller, and like 80% of the GabeCube seems to be cooling…
The PS5 is that bulky because of the stupid exterior shell design, and that big because Sony went into weird directions with the cooling. Reformat that into a more traditional form factor and you can reduce overall size by 30-50%. Hell, there’s gaming oriented mini PCs that are 1/2-1/3 the size of a PS5 Slim, with double the performance…
Sure, for triple the price. Steam Machine’s draw here is that it will likely be around PS5, possibly PS5 Pro level performance for around the same price (they said entry level gaming PC, so I’m guessing base price around 600).
Also, kudos for GabeCube, perfect nickname
Triple the price? The fuck are you talking about?
Gaming-oriented mini PCs match the PS5 performance around $300. Around $600-800 you’ll even get dedicated (albeit mobile) GPUs.
I’d like to see a link to a parts list that provides PS5 level performance for $300 in any form factor.
Any Ryzen 7800/8800/8900 series APU miniPC will bring you close to PS5 performance. Frequently sold around $300-400, with 16-32GB RAM.
…none of the processors you list seem to exist? The only “7800” ryzen is the 7800X3D which retails for more than that by itself, let alone in a complete system, and I highly doubt you mean the A10 7800 which is over a decade old. No AMD CPU or APU that I can find has ever been branded as 8800 or 8900.
The closest and highest end match to any of those numbers, the 8700G, falls well short of a PS5. There’s no way it counts as close unless you’re talking astronomical scales and “within an order of magnitude” is considered “close”. The iGPU on the 8700G being a newer architecture than the RDNA2 in the PS5 doesn’t make up for the fact that the PS5 has three times as many compute units.
I’ll happily eat crow if you can link to one of these alleged $300-$400 PCs.
I don’t think so.
Fortunately, “I don’t think so” is not a legitimate argument, so off you feck.
Ok then how about “no it’s not”. You’re the one making the claim, I don’t have to prove anything.
Let’s see that PS5 level hardware for $300. Should be easy then, right?
The switch 2 is essentially ps4 level. Ps5 is what…5 years old, and based on chips a year or so beyond that? I don’t think it’s crazy at all to expect ps5 grade performance in this form factor coming next year.
it basically has less cpu cores, (6c/12t vs ps5 8c/16t) and less GPU compute units (28CU vs 36CU), however the GabeCube uses newer CPU and GPU architecture compared to the PS5 (Zen 4 vs PS5’s Zen 2, RDNA3 instead of PS5’s RNDA2) to make up a little bit of ground. hence why if you had to give it a rough performance, its near a PS5, but not exactly quite there.
I don’t think the newer architecture will make up for all of that but 🤞🤞
RDNA2 > RDNA3 is liek ~10% gen over gen, so gpu wise, its still sort of behind. CPU wise, Zen 2 > Zen 4 is a huge jump