Ill tell ya when I get some.

I mean grain of salt because I don’t have much of one but kinda old and married. Just go do stuff. Like my library has all sorts of programs and if I would easily go to them over watching something or playing a video game if I had the time. I do go to protests and meet people also “concerned” over whats going on in the country. I don’t have the cash for cons right now but can always ghost (go to the location and hang out with folks in the common sorta public areas of the hotel).

I can’t hear friend without thinking. im not your friend …

I think devils panties had a comic around this topic. can’t remember if she had anything in the notes with an answer.

I try not to eat after 8pm and mostly don’t after 7pm because of heartburn/reflux. I think that is all you really need for just that.

I think its area of the country because I have kept my eye out for over 30 years now and it disapeared. I shop by price so don’t tend to just go to one place for everything.

I am goods at beateding tutorials.

maybe that is why I never finish them. They are all still an option.

I don’t think the industry did much there. Consumers were not exactly avoiding plastics. There was kinda a few attempts to avoid them but they did not really go anywhere except for maybe the reusable shopping bags. I have to say I used to love and get the 16 ounce pop bottles that had the deposit that you got back when you brought them back. I would be buying them now if the pop industry had not phased them out. Was still able to get them even in the first year or so of the 90’s. That ones a hard comparison.

So I mean. They had a point then is what im kinda saying.

I have only encountered number 3 but I don’t really use this or any social media as a news source. For me its like hanging at a bar and maybe someone has something interesting and maybe then I might look into it.

Sorry I thought you were followup by the initial starter of the comment chain.

But at that time the science was just solidifying so overrated was not that contrary to say its overrated or inconclusive or something. Its like at one point there was a microbiologist that thought hiv was a passenger virus and did not cause aids. Which at the time was reasonable given koch’s postulates although they are basically impossible to apply to aids but eventually we had some much evidence built up that it became moot. Which is very similar with global warming. Someone might say we don’t know enough or have done enough studies and that might be reasonable in the 50’s but becomes silly by the 90’s

ok. So just to be clear we just care about if there are technically more trees like saplings in tree farms than any type of environmental thing yeah?

I think that is an apt comparison and it just outlines the things to me. We really did not know smoking was bad till the 40’s and the 50’s is when it was much more conclusive and the industry was able to push off legislation for like a decade into the 60’s. The greenhouse effect although known for awhile similarly did not really become conclusive till the 50’s and still it was like the late eighties when congressional hearings brought it more into the us public sphere although many folk still did not really know about it till gores 2006 movie put it more into the common culture. The industry fud started with the congressional hearings when there was indication it might lead to regulation. So they have pretty effectively stalled it for the most part for over 30 years! In addition we have had some regulation and then had it pulled back. I think it really highlights the decline compared to before when you look at cigarettes compared to greenhouse gases.

I mean maybe. If you count little seedlings or such. there was this thing about how a squirrel could go from one ocean to the other without ever touching the ground. I mean the logging practices prior to the settlers landing on plymouth rock were pretty anemic. I mean the natives had few buildings. All our towns and cities and buildings in general were for the most part forest or prarie and even prarie had trees especially long water sources like lakes and rivers.

I think it depends how we slice it. last century compared to previous. yeah will take this century. this quarter century to the quarter century before. Ill take before. I mean if we are at the tail of of a falling post world war 2 blip that is not a great thing.

I feel @starlinguk@lemmy.world was saying more than that. I don’t recall any serious studies or news articles suggesting the ozone hole was a hoax or that debunking a human cause. Although it was kinda an aside but the anti vaxine thing he points to. I mean one of the most effective medical interventions since soap and sterilization has people acting like its some sort of evil witchcraft that will actually harm you despite the clear evidence both clinical and personal to its effectiveness.

I find this hard to believe.

Those ancient writings. Were the times and cultures full of justice and equity and they writers are just whiners?