This is by far the dumbest fucking analogy I have ever had the misfortune to read.

You will, never, ever, understand what I am saying because you obviously do not even want to try. You are not a bucket, you are a human fucking being, and it’s a choice to hate others because you have had misfortune.

As I said in a previous post, I blame no one for the pain and agony my ex put me through except myself and her, and I would not want to make anyone else suffer such things ever because it doesn’t matter how hurt I am because of it, I know being a decent person that making others suffer will not fix what has been done to me. The only thing that can fix it is me trying to be better. You want to cook up every excuse in the book for why it’s not on you to ever be kind to others or consider others feelings like you want people to consider yours.

Like, think about that for a minute, you want others to consider your feelings, but you consistently have made clear you’re actually content to not think about theirs, going back to the very beginning of this thread where you callously said that my ex “married the wrong man” and waxed poetic about how you think women are coddled for such choices. Why should anyone give a fuck about your feelings when you consistently have made clear this whole thread you have no consideration for anyone else’s? That despite all you’ve been through, you haven’t learned “gosh I never want to make anyone feel the way I have felt, it’s so awful!” you instead learned “FUCKING EVERYONE DESERVES TO FEEL EVEN WORSE THAN I HAVE FELT BECAUSE I AM THE SPECIALIST LITTLE SNOWFLAKE BITCH ALIVE! BLEARGH!”

It really says a lot about how fucked in the head you are, how you don’t actually understand how empathy works, how you never actually worked on yourself like you keep claiming you did (I promise you, people who have worked on themselves don’t think like you do), and are possibly one the most selfish and petulant people I have had the displeasure to interact with on this site. You have no intentions of actually hearing what anyone else has said, continuing to repeat your “woe is me” horseshit that everyone is tired of hearing because to everyone else it is painfully clearly and obviously nothing but selfish horseshit.

You will never have the amount of self reflection needed to understand what I and others have bothered trying to posit to you today, and yet you persist in trying to convince us that no you’re just a sad sad widdle boy who needs to be fucking coddled like you apparently think everyone else is. Bitch, you have no idea what that woman I was speaking of in the beginning of this thread had gone through when you decided to slander her for no fucking good reason and whine about how bad you had it in comparison. You are the one who came in and slandered a person who I have compassion for because you’re a whiny little fucking bitch who can’t handle seeing people who are emotionally mature without deciding you need to shit all over it.

I’m done trying to explain it to you. You have no intention to hear it, you have every intention to repeat your selfish bullshit in desperate attempts to manipulate people into feeling sorry for you. Fucking suck it, loser. Eat shit. Nobody with a compassionate and empathetic bone in their body has time to waste on people like you and I regret spending the latter half of my day wasting my time trying to get you to see your own fucked up priorities, because you clearly want to be a victim so god damned badly you’ll Donald Trump it to the end of your life.

I mean seriously dude in your second message to me you said “Don’t be a cuck.” Like what kind of clueless and fucking dickless wonder who admits he never gets laid says that to a fat fucking loser like me who has had endless pussy simply because he’s a nice person? I’m being a cuck because I fucked a bunch of women and some of them moved on in their lives? And you’re not an incel? Fuck me, you’re an incel, a moron and a liar because if you had cared about anyone’s feelings at any point that wouldn’t have been one of the first things you said to me. Yet despite that, for a while, I tried to give your stupid worthless victimhood desiring ass the benefit of the doubt. You took my kindness even after you had already attempted to insult me and went “WAHH NOT GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE I’M A LITTLE BITCH!” Well, fine, go be a little bitch, then.

I love this one specifically because I have always wondered: Is the guy with the hook hand into amputee porn because he is an amputee, or is his interest in it independent of that?

I’m sorry but you clearly didn’t care about me or anyone else’s feelings in this conversation long before I resorted to rightfully insulting you.

The world has never taken responsibility for its role in making me what I am. I had potential, but they’d rather see me fail and suffer than live in a world where I had the satisfaction of making the world a better place. They wouldn’t tolerate me being compassionate. They chose suffering, and then they complain when the suffering envelops them too. They thought I would be the only one who suffered, a convenient and well-behaved scapegoat. Well, I’m not so docile, and I don’t have sympathy for a world that had no sympathy for me.

If you really believe this about the world, let me repeat myself as I have over and over again and you clearly still don’t get it: if you really believe this, you never actually experienced any real growth at all nor do you have real empathy for others. You can lie to yourself and say you “gave up” on it all you want, but the reality is anyone who actually had experienced real growth would have never, ever come to these conclusions to begin with, ergo, you have not actually grown or used any of the skills you claim to have. You never did. It’s a convenient lie you tell yourself to justify being a shiftless piece of shit who loves being hated because it fulfills your victimhood complex.

You’ve clearly misinterpreted what I said.

No, no, you’ve just not been aware of how much of yourself you’ve really revealed with all you’ve said here today, and it isn’t anywhere near a misinterpretation, it’s a lunatic who will never have enough self reflection to really see themselves and understand their own failings instead of blaming the entire world for every single little slight they have ever experienced. Like I said, you’re a fucking loser like Donald Trump, a fucking whinger and whiner who takes no responsibility for themselves, their actions, or what they’ve said. You’ve made that exceedingly clear, even if you’re too oblivious to realize how you’ve done so. You are what you hate so much about the world, wrapped up in a neat little bow. No wonder you want others to hate you so badly, because deep down you must hate yourself something awful because somewhere inside you recognize this in yourself and hate yourself for it. Yet, like Trump, you want to make others suffer for your own personal failings more than you want to do better an atone for any of it. And that is what makes you worthy of derisive words.

Like I said, it’s clear you get off on trying to be so terrible that people hate you. Don’t worry, if and when you do that, all those people you force to see it will have very, very justifiable reasons to fucking hate you and be glad you’re dead. Mostly because you had so little empathy as to think they deserved to suffer simply because you suffered people being big meanies to you. Once again, wanting to make others suffer because you have suffered speaks to something being deeply wrong with you, instead of you not wanting others to suffer as you have. As I said before, your attitude and beliefs make this a self-fulfilling prophecy. Your unwillingness to learn and try to change is your choice alone. You have zero desire to do better or grow, as much as you like to pretend you do.

Man you really just want to prove how genuinely unhinged you are and how little you’ve done to grow, huh?

No one who has actually had serious self-growth would ever in a fucking million years want to force other people to want to watch them commit suicide to punish them.

Seriously, my ex did that shit to me. Why? Because we were in an argument about how I had cancer and was working full-time, did all the cooking, cleaning, shopping, and life planning and she sat on her butt at home. So she decided to tell me I never really loved her and tried to force me watch her kill herself because I had the fucking audacity to ask for help after I had been struggling with cancer for a year already. It has left me all fucked up, but the only people I blame for that is her and me specifically. Her for being so petty as to try to force me to watch her kill herself (by trying to swallow all my cancer meds no less) after over a decade of basically being her caretaker, and myself for not having the balls to make a boundary earlier before she tried to do this fucked up thing to me. Anyway, good job, you successfully triggered me over some fucked up shit I’ve been through.

No one who has ever done the work and experienced real growth would ever do that to another person, especially not just random people as you seem to be implying you would do it to. You are deeply fucked up, and you have made no growth as much as you lie to yourself that you have. If you ever had any real serious personal growth, you wouldn’t ever be saying shit like that you fucking sociopath. Like that’s the whole thing, you’ve said an unimaginable amount of selfish fucked up things here today, shifted goalposts from “there’s a double standard” to “well she grew past her trauma but not everyone grows past their trauma like me for example”, and have generally been one of the biggest fucking whiners I have ever encountered, but even when you admitted that you purposefully push people away because it’s easier to be an angry angsty asshole who feels sorry for themselves than it is to actually be a decent human being, you still haven’t put two and two together that you haven’t actually grown at all and you’re the actual fucking problem here and maybe, just maybe, that you are the reason people don’t like you, not the cruel cruel world.

I mean, even if humans didn’t destroy themselves, it’s not like the heat death of the universe isn’t inescapable. Yawn, what a load of existential crisis bollocks. You’re pathetic.

All I hear is the equivalent of a Republican saying “well Democrats said I’m a racist so I guess that means I should be mega racist Nazi.”

Seriously if that’s your takeaway, that your self improvement was for nothing because you didn’t get what you wanted out of it instead of self improvement being for its own sake, then you’re doing the same thing. You’re choosing to be worse because you’re too weak to stand up and be better. Sorry not sorry.

Just like Nazis, if people being not nice to you and saying you’re being racist means you should go as deeply Nazi as possible: something is seriously wrong with you that not even trauma can explain or justify.

Being a bad bitter person blaming everyone else isn’t ever justified. Hopefully you learn that some day. If not oh well one less loser in the world.

Saying “people were mean to me so I need to double down and be worse about the things they said were bad about me” isn’t the flex you think it is

Fuck you too, buddy. Fuck you, too.

My ex grew and changed. You haven’t. That’s the part you’ve conveniently ignored this whole time. I literally explained that in an earlier post, but you’re more than happy to ignore information that conflicts with your fake ass worldview. I’m not some shmuck who thinks she is irredeemable because she didn’t choose me, and instead eventually found someone else who really treated her right, after struggling with her trauma for a while. If she had kept doing dumb shit and getting with abusive men her whole life maybe your argument would have a leg to stand on, but right now your argument is a fucking quadriplegic.

As I said before, she eventually got divorced and broke free from her traumatic past and is now happily married to a good man and has kids. But sure, the fact that she grew and changed means nothing and means she’s to blame! No, losers like you you refuse to grow are the only people to blame.

It’s not a double standard if it’s bullshit you made up in your own head that doesn’t match the facts of the situation.

Don’t worry, I don’t think I have any superpowers.

I don’t know, you’re the biggest fucking clown I’ve ever encountered, so that seems like a superpower.

You get to be compared to him, because I spent an afternoon trying to be nice and having you bitch and moan and make excuses for yourself at me. Just like he does. Get over it.

Also, it’s weird how much you obviously get off on this. It’s clear you want people to not like you so you can be bitter about it, otherwise why would you try so fucking hard to make it happen?

I drive them away because it’s easier than building something on potential only to inevitably see it come crashing down.

So you finally admit that you’re the problem here. Glad you recognized it. Now shut the fuck up.

You aren’t your cognitive conditioning, you can make a choice to be different. You don’t want to make that choice, ergo, you can fuck off. That’s me setting a boundary with someone who obviously isn’t worth the effort.

Geeze, and you say I blame others for my bitterness.

Called it.

I don’t need to hear it anymore, because you’ll just use this as justification for why you’re a fucking angry shitty loser instead of having an ounce of self reflection over anything you’ve said here in this giant fuck off thread of you being a whiny little bitch.

Also, if you actually had a thick skin, you wouldn’t be a such a fucking whiner about all the times you’ve been mistreated. You’re like that dipshit Donald Trump. Says he’s a big strong man but can’t shut the fuck up about all the perceived slights he’s ever received. Strong people with thick skin don’t spend several hours writing full on screeds about how awful their life is because everyone else is a big meanie. They especially don’t compare people not liking them because they’re a bitter assholes to people’s human rights being violated. Seriously, grow the fuck up. Although I know you won’t because then you won’t have the satisfaction of being able to say it’s everyone else’s fault.

I don’t know man, I was excluded from it for a long time and I made myself a better person and then had a happier life. You seem pretty dedicated to being an angry bitter asshole who blames everything on everyone but yourself, so like I said, you do you. Go ahead and be a fucking asshole who no one likes. I did my bit, walk away and stop being an annoying loser, please and thank you.

You got what you wanted, I’m sick of your loser shit, so piss off please. I don’t need to hear it anymore, because you’ll just use this as justification for why you’re a fucking angry shitty loser instead of having an ounce of self reflection over anything you’ve said here in this giant fuck off thread of you being a whiny little bitch. Good, I hope you feel justified and I hope you stay the sad sack loser you are, because if you’re really this much of a twerp who can’t listen to positive re-enforcement you probably deserve it.

Once again, you whining that people don’t like you isn’t the same as caring about your civil rights dumbfuck. I gave you a lot of outs in this conversation, but your whiny bitch ass just wants to keep digging a deeper hole to prove how unlikable you are. Well, guess what, you succeeded, I officially don’t like you and think you suck. Not because you’re a bad person, but because you have zero self reflection and whine about lame shit when people tried to help you understand and do better.

Be happy, you got what you really wanted, people don’t like you. Good job, it’s a self fulfilling prophecy you fucking idiot. If the only thing you put out into the world is “no one likes me and everyone judges me” eventually, that’s all you’ll get from the world. You get out what you put in, and you’re obviously all too happy to put in “I want people to fucking hate me so I can be sad and bitter about it.”

That’s odd because out here in the real world people absolutely let women know that it’s their own lack of boundaries that led to being taken advantage of, and nobody gets upset because no one is being a petulant ill tempered dick about it when they do so. You are literally living in a fantasy land you’ve built for yourself so you don’t have to face your own shitty attitude being part of this.

I’m not the one who is pretending. You do you, obviously no one will be able to break through that wall of self importance.

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I don’t make it my fucking personality.

*Gestures broadly at this entire thread.

Sure looks like it from here.

he’s a good man even if he did wind up the sort of guy that’s really into sports.

Thank you kindly for the compliment.

You’re an adult, and you don’t change it by telling your child self that, you change it by having some fucking self respect and not blaming every person who has mistreated you for why you should never trust or be kind to anyone else ever. Your own inability to accept your own lack of boundaries when it comes to being taken advantage of or treated like a pushover is evidence of that. I’ve been hurt too, but I also see when I made mistakes, didn’t set clear boundaries, and how that impacted the situations a great deal. I have also seen when my own bad attitude has led people to dislike me, and so I dropped the bad attitude, because it hurt me more than helped me, and honestly, I’m much happier for it. You really ought to try it sometime.

Incel is an insult because people like you make it your whole personality and are bitter sad sacks who make it the worlds problem instead of choosing to look inward. People give up and insult incels not because they can’t get laid, but because they make their whole lives about it instead of finding anything constructive to do with their time like my asexual friends do. If you think people actually make fun of incels because they don’t get laid and not that they fail to see how their shitty fucking attitudes is why they don’t get laid while latching on to anything to try to justify it except their own shit behavior and beliefs, you’re missing the forest for the trees.

Also, I didn’t get laid until I was 20. You are literally reaching for any, and I mean any, reason for this to not be your fault and to justify being bitter and angry and unlikeable.