Isnt that just as futile as going vegan?
no. direct action gets the goods. if you want to save animals, you need to go where the animals are and save them.
that line on the graph you showed me will keep going up.
impossible. if the animals are not in the pen to be slaughtered, they cannot be counted toward meat production.
like sleeplessness, nightmares, vomiting/nausea? sometimes.
your analogy doesn’t reflect the reality at all. a more apt analogy would be that someone paid to have their grandfather murdered, and later had an estate sale. at that estate sale, if i buy a watch, am i responsible for murder? no.
And i’m not even vegan, i just recognize that yes, a part of the money i pay for meat goes to who kills it
no, it doesn’t. that person was already paid.
It’s a plain stupid argument to try and make, and it makes no sense.
it’s obvious you can’t suss it out, but the rest of us have had a pretty good conversation about it til you showed up.
No your honor, i didn’t pay for the murder, i paid for someone who paid for someone to commit the murder. I’m obviously innocent!
i would be innocent. i had nothing to do with any of their decisions, and only much later did i pay anyone, but not the people responsible.
Despite that what makes it different?
there is no such conspiracy between someone walking into a grocery store and the abattoir worker.
f you walk onto a farm and point out a pig and say, kill that one I want to eat it, and then the farmer kills it and gives it to you for money, you still have 0 responsibility for what happened
this is a conspiracy and completely disanalogous with how most people buy meat most of the time
nope. the only thing that can be said to cause the actions of a free agent is their own will.
It’s designed to make the viewer uncomfortable.
yea. it uses well-known horror film techniques to induce trauma. sudden loud sounds, long sustained shots from awkward angles, long periods of loud sounds. it’s not a documentary, it’s a lesson on abusing audiences.
i do think it would be better if everyone took responsibility for their own actions. i don’t see how we can function if that isn’t how we assign blame.
I’ve seen dominion. it’s propaganda designed to inflict trauma, not a a sober analysis of humanitarian slaughter laws and practices.
it will result in less animals being killed
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL
you know that has not happened
the producer can choose based on any criteria they want. they choose the criteria as well as the action. all the responsibility for the actions of the producer lie with the producer.
And so since its in the past and a different person, person 2 shouldnt feel like they caused what person 1 did.
that’s how linear time works. an event in the present or future cannot cause an event in the past
I disagree that agriculture is inherently cruel.
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