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PDAs are not “SmartPhones”. if we want to go that route, we can trace the first “Smart Phone” to the Berkley Unix “Mobile Phone Device”.

iPhone was the first to market, but to get there required them pushing vendors into exclusivity agreements and Steve Jobs threatening to “flatten Thier companies, in court” if they backed out and refused.

Steve was very biligerent to his friends and allies. shrewd, like a dictator, not like a general. if he didn’t like your descent he would steamroll over you. he would make promises all the time to his staff, to get them to work harder on projects, just to peacemeal them and shoehorn them into weaker projects that would make customers dependent and demand more.

what Steve jobs did best, is know how to make a cult and exploit the desire for “if only it could do ‘X’ it would be perfect”.

don’t take my word for It. his business partners said the same thing… they begged him to come back as he sabotaged them externally when they tried to improve…

apple went through a period where they genuinely were improving. they sold Thier software and hardware to third parties to make Thier own versions…

but then Steve jobs went and sabotaged them, got a massive amount of bad press for apple to make them appear weak, and put the 2 final nails in the coffin.

he pushed software vendors to support m$ and next step more.

then he went to apples suppliers and made it for it was even more difficult for them to develop in-house hardware to compete with third parties…

all of this, so they would start to go bankrupt so Steve could ride in on his white horse going “See, you should of stuck with my vision”. then Steve goes and pushes for restrictive hardware with a architecture change so third party models would be obsolete, clones pc-clones from asia (mostly JVC/nec) which were exploring with transparent plastics and still tried to shovel next step to everyone…

I was playing Doom on SPARC Unix, when apple was still trying to add resizable windows…

I don’t think people realise just how much they were screwed because of apple and microsoft manipulating the market so much.

hardly. Aero seen it’s development start before aqua was a published design.

Aero appeared in MSDN builds a full 4 years before…

if anything its a ripoff of a old gnome 2/3 theme. I think it was called ice?

alot of that era was ripping off gnome and KDE ui designs… there was Portable Media Players using Linux kernels on arm hardware that predated the iPod and Zune by a full 3 years…

advertising and paid reviews on tv and magazines got you sales and buried everything back then…

you could steal the US president and hide it with a single fox news broadcast in 2009…

windows XP and 7 were there last attempts at selling a OS to run apps.

windows 8/10 was there first attempt to building a ecosystem, designed around the principles of EEE & subscribe…

whole reason for ai In 11 and coming 12, is to build a dependence and make you subscribe for a copilot subscription so your PC isn’t slow when your trying to get it to load apps at a prompt as they removed the launcher again…

I wouldn’t feed it to strays. it’s like poisoned sausages that animal control uses. it looks and smells good, so the desperate fools think they can fill their starving bellies… only to get locked into a death spiral.

apple, google and Microsoft are all perfect examples of what happens when you mix a lack of ethics with people desperate for anything that isn’t junk.

only one of them /was/ based on Unix. a extremely stripped down, and proprietary modified version, with all the strong points removed as it made it Unix compatible…

also for the record, m$ did have a Unix variant once, with a UI. it wasn’t populare due to the lack of applications.

Apple spent a ton of money, paying developers to lock their apps to Thier ecosystem. even bundling them with systems…

both only became popular by stealing, manipulation and forcing companies into exclusivity deals. they are both monopolies of their own respective architectures.

iOS is a wheelchair, that wheels you into a applecare subscription and handcuffs you to the ecosystem… while removing or lobotomizing third party apps.

iOS is what you give to the drooling kid that just presses buttons on the screen over and over. because you know there is nothing they can do to really damage it, except call emergency services, which you will probably need after bashing your head on the screen 30 times while it refuses to let you install a update as you downloaded a image file it can’t upload to iCloud as your 50mb quota is exceeded and now it can’t do backups.

and then they bricked all older devices in Australia, because some providers are lazy.

instead of forcing the providers to stop being lazy…they bricked devices so they can’t use 4g networks and you have to buy a new iPhone…

this is not a isolated issue…

my iPad, that I rarely use and sits off 98% of the time. the battery health doesn’t degrade, but the performance and battery life does with every update…

they are a scientology of the tech space…

you either have them on your home screen or in the app page… which is just as bad UI I might add.

if you can’t remember what the app is named, you spend 3x as long searching for the app in multiple, poorly named categories…

it’s gnome UX all over again…

and yet it will still listen, just not trigger. check wireguard…

what bothers me more is them constantly scanning files and storing summaries/metadata for “law enforcement”.

could they be more like google… they already got the pretending they were doing no evil phase and going back on it done down pat.

honestly, most issues I’ve seen recently have been relegated to ubuntu-derived distributions like popos!

it’s so silly to me how people have this strong misconceptions. I get it for some weird hardware or hardware that EOL that people are clinging on to with windows 11 and grandfathered drivers…

but that’s getting rare… I have a mothballed AMD R9 290X piledriver system, still sitting in storage. that can even run modern Linux distributions… meanwhile my 2 year old (except for GPU, which I got this year) system runs just as flawlessly.

I don’t get it at all.

easy to find the bots in this thread.

ever heard of Linux and Framework? arm is great for phones, doesn’t belong In a laptop…

M1(and successors) are amazing processors. but, being stuck into a ecosystem for one is not worth it. I for one cannot wait for full size RISCV CPU cores… honestly, the market desperately needs a shakeup from all of this “I didn’t have a choice, so I chose the most expensive thing that met my minimum specs” copium.

what are you talking about.

Ux/UI has slipped over the last decade.

build quality generation after generation got worse.

os efficiency, my iPad is TERRIBLE…

They actively sabotage old devices to make their performance and battery life /worse/ so it makes new devices feel better…

then you say “best value”. that’s some major copium. what value is there in a $2000 device with $180 worth of components, a locked down ecosystem that tracks everything you do, scans all your data and sabotages your applications…

I remember first gen iPhones. I had one. I still have lots of classic apple hardware. you are literally sounding like a apple care technician.

I honestly spent like a week, outlining what I would need to build a FOSS phone, on RISCV.

current revision could do it. it would be a bit slow, but it’s possible…

all was good till I hit two hardware bottlenecks.

1. GPU: unlike ARM which several manufacturers have 2d/3d accelerators. RiscV really doesn’t have that. all current implementations are primitive… (I have a Spacemit K1 SOC, I have been prototyping with and it’s entirely Vulkan based and stuck in mid stages of MESA development. so *Gl in Vulkan wrappers are broken… GUIs perform like a m68k machine from 1988…)

2. this is the big one, Modems. there is only two suppliers and both are vendor locked. they won’t provide hardware to ANYONE without a contract. — this is why 5g USB/PCI-E modems don’t exist. there is a monopoly no one is talking about…

until these two points are addressed a foss phone is not possible. not even close. ~ even if you damage control on software (aosp) and some how convince amd/Intel to sell you chips for GPU on a PCIe lane sharing ram…

your still stuck on the modem. some one needs to get the ball rolling on a monopoly suit against the big two.

Linux users like: you merely pretended to hate, for your friends believed your posing.

its the same logic I heard over “I don’t need a keyboard, I have a touch screen”. smh.

just because something is different to what you are used to, doesn’t make it bad…

now what is bad, is all these parents giving iPads and iPhones to kids under 13… fml, do they not realise how developmentally stunted it makes them.

they become obsessed with the feedback and can’t differentiate between “not getting feedback” and happiness. it’s a epidemic, all because they don’t want to deal with their kids interacting with them… if they don’t want them, dont have them…

with Linux, you invest your time once. with apple, android and M$ you invest your time, and your money after every patch and change.

every new subscription fee, every added bug that’s actually a “feature”, every forced “upsell” for a “feature” they once offered but removed to put it behind a paywall, shove AI into it and host it from a “cloud” server 2000km away.

"I know everyone warned me walking in lava was a bad idea. but my wife, who is addicted to tiktok and lives beyond her means constantly, Insisted it’s amazing. the best new trend. now I’m locked in…

litterally, I’m locked in, the hospital won’t let me leave as I have no legs. I’m stuck… I don’t know what to do. ~ Sent from a iPhone"

yes, please shame. shame is effective tool. it’s the same tool that got people into using apple ecosystems in the first place.

build up enough frustration, they will download their data to file, sell their devices and jump ship. while telling their wife to “please think beyond a check mark, or will I have to bail you out of jail when your smashing TVs in the shops because of a tiktok trend telling you to”.

it’s hard to switch and go against the flow. the longer you wait, the harder it gets. till one day, you cannot leave at all.

(most of this is a joke)

and forced to charge app fees and subscriptions to update the app, every time apple decides to add some unnecessary control or UI change. all for apple can collect a portion on all those tasty fees.