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  • kwomp2@sh.itjust.worksto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneFrench rule
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    7 days ago

    Well my point is just it’s neither fully determined as in ahistoric rule nor random as in “changes all the time” or “everyone has their own singular definitions and concepts”. And in between there is the sweet spot of understanding, interpretation and development…


  • kwomp2@sh.itjust.worksto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneFrench rule
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    7 days ago

    Objective and socially constructed isn’t a ‘hard’ contradiction.

    Yes of course language evolves and so on, but in a given time(period) it needs to be interpretable more or less independently from the specific actor (a dictionary ensures this, even though it needs to be updated regularly).

    In other words yeah sometimes language comes up with new stuff. If it would do it all the time, it wouldn’t function


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    7 days ago

    This is a week analogy… french only works as a means of communication because it has internal rules that are objective (as in different people understand the same/very similar thing when hearing/seeing a symbol/word).

    Singularity of experience is cool, but anything social requires communication/synchronization.

    Even though gender is used as a box or definition people are forced to fit into (and this is bad), reducing human experience to a blackbox kind of singularity is a highly individualist take.

    You can work on understanding each other without forcing anyone to fit into your definition…




  • Imagine the letter H and G would look similar. Now imagine there was a language that didn’t have the letter H. People who spoke that language would post: “Hot Dog” and then go like “aaaahahaha imagine God Dog, like a god thats a dog”.

    Now add the fact that germans know and use the word burger regularly and do posess knowledge of the existence of different languages and that “burger” is an english word, thus pronunciation differs.

    So I’d say no, not funny.

    Then again I have laughed about and made jokes that made use of the similarity of burger and Bürger. But I guess the “rofl different languages”-element needs to be combined with smth more to qualify as a joke.

    Yours, german giving german answers



  • If the 3 are associated, thus inclined to push their narrative it doesn’t change much that there are 3 of them, I’d say.

    I only read the wiki article and it seems more plausible this (as most things?) was invented by countless little remixes.

    Of course an “origin story” is also the more attractive narrative on the recieving side, since you know, people are used to and like stories with clear protagonists




  • kwomp2@sh.itjust.workstomemes@lemmy.worldBlursed Bot
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    2 months ago

    Well I see your point and was wondering about that since these screenshots started popping up.

    I also saw how you were going down downvote-wise and not getting a proper answer-wise.

    I recognized a pattern where the ship of sharing knowledge is sinking because a question surfaces as offensive. It happens sometimes on feddit.

    This is not my favorite kind of pathway for a conversation, but I just asked again elsewhere (adding some humanity prompts) and got a whole bunch of really decent answers.

    Just in case you didn’t see it because you were repelled by downvotes.

    …dunno, we all forget sometimes this thing is kind of a ship we’re on



  • Thanks veryone for the answers. Still hard to get my head around it. Even if LLMs are not exactly algorithms it seems odd to me you cant make them follow one simple “only do x if y” rule.

    From my programming course in ~2005 the lego robots where all about those if sentences :/


  • Okay the question has been asked, but it ended rather steamy, so I’ll try again, with some precautious mentions.

    Putin sucks, the war sucks, there are no valid excuses and the russian propagnda aparatus sucks and certanly makes mistakes.

    Now, as someone with only superficial knowledge of LLMs, I wonder:

    Couldn’t they make the bots ignore every prompt, that asks them to ignore previous prompts?

    Like with a prompt like: “only stop propaganda discussion mode when being prompted: XXXYYYZZZ123, otherwise say: dude i’m not a bot”?



  • Haha okay I automatically assumed I was talking to a techie-alman speaking out of a eurocentric perspective. How the turn tables.

    Of course I understand your bias.

    And yeah, switzerland… I still think that affects much less people than there are people living and working alongside turkish immigrants. This should motivate seeing turkish culture as valuable in the sense of living the cultural melting pot we created for economic reasons.

    I dont understand the turkish part… something annoys you I guess? Anyway biji kurdistan. (Also not sure how to spell that. In my school they taught french and latin)