However, if we’re talking about the WebKit-based Linux browsers (such as Konqueror), IIRC, they’re a bit out of spec when it comes to the “modern Web”: WebKit’s adoption of latest specs tends to be slower than Firefox and Chromium.

WebKit-GTK is up to date. 30 seconds of research in your favorite search engine and you would have found it out.

Fire causes air pollution. News at 11.

they are letting an AI develop the browser

The port from C++ to Rust was assisted by an LLM. That’s different from “ChatGPT, write me a web browser”.

I cannot speak for the quality of that code, nor advocating for it, I merely want to make that distinction.

YouTube is full of Bazzite tutorials. Whatever is out there at documentation is also quite recent. When people ask ChatGPT about how to do something on Ubuntu or Mint, the answers are generated from 15 years old forum posts. Often not only unusable but also damaging. My expectationnis that for immutable distributions LLM answers in 15 years will not break the OS. At worst it’ll recommend some tool deleted from Flathub and it’ll merely not work instead of breaking everything.

I think as a GNU project, Gnome is an exception.

Gnome isn’t a GNU project any longer. They removed references to GNU from their website when Stallman was brought back as GNU leader after speaking in favor of pedophilia.

In typical Gnome fashion they didn’t merely renounce GNU and Stallman, they lied and claimed that Gnome has never ever been a GNU project.

It isn’t “non standard.” It is literally s part of gnome.

It’s a stand-alone tool by the Gnome developers, it’s not an integral part of Gnome.

The default UX of Gnome still make it hard for people migrating from Win10. No amount of nitpicking about irrelevant details change that fact.

Haters gonna hate I guess

I didn’t expect any other response by a Gnome fan. Keep ignoring comments like https://lemmy.world/comment/22252682 where I explained that I picked Gnome for an elderly man. I’m really such a hater that I pick Gnome for a certain use case.

I’m pretty sure you can live without the minimize button.

I’m volunteering in a repair café where older people bring their Windows 10 computers and seek help migrating to Linux because their PC told them that Win11 isn’t compatible.

I make recommendations based on each person, trying to realize what they wish for first if they have an idea what they want. A few months ago there was an >70y/o man. Let’s be realistic here, at this age it might well be the last PC he ever owns. So I set him up with Alma Linux (extra long support cycle) and made its Gnome desktop as Windows-like as possible. He’s not getting pressured into unfamiliar UX metaphors and no way I’m pushing software from EPEL or anything that onto him. I enabled Flathub and temporarily installed aforementioned tools to make the necessary tweaks, then uninstalled these tools again, and installed a few of Gnome’s games, Celluloid, and Chrome off Flathub.

For the rest of the day he ate cookies and drank coffee and seemed pretty happy with that setup. We invited him to come back, should he have any further questions. Haven’t seen him again.

For the max/min buttons you can just turn them on in gnome tweaks

Ah yes, using a different non-standard tool makes so much of a difference.

It reminds you of that because it’s the same interface. It’s literally just a different web view that checks the browser’s user agent string.

Gnome has one great purpose and that is for tablets.

Doesn’t work well on tablets, though.

why in the fuck is it pronounced guhnome

It’s not. There is no vowel between G and N. Watch an episode or two of Star Trek and listen to some Klingon or Vulkan names to learn how such a combination of letters is pronounced without adding a vowel.

yet seem incapable of understanding that people could have preferences different from their own.

Perfect description of Gnome developers.

Kde is so ugly and buggy, requiring tons of setup n knowhow to fix.

Surely you confuse Plasma and Gnome. To get a sane setup on Gnome, you need to install Refine to enable the minimize button and then install Gnome Extension Manager and enable Dash to Panel or Dash to Dock.

That’s an insane amount of setup work for someone who doesn’t know about those things.

Alternative: https://flathub.org/apps/rocks.shy.VacuumTube

The UI is regular YouTube for TV but bundles plugins such as SposorBlock.

IMO using a distribution within Distrobox is an alright choice to keep options open for stuff from outside Flatpak. I keep my SteamOS immutable.

I started suggesting Bazzite to Linux first timers, simply because there is more stuff to find, should people hit trouble. Sure, they might not be that interested in gaming stuff but at least they can enter that name into YouTube and get up tp date video tutorials.

Standard Bluefin is based on Fedora.

I don’t get Universal Blue’s desire to give slightly different flavors and entirely new name. With the non-LTS option, what is the difference between Bazzite Gnome and Bluefin? Preinstalled code editors instead of Steam and Lutris?

LMDE is not based on Sid, it’s based on Debian Stable

Oh wow, you’re right. Did that change at some point and I just didn’t pay attention? My bad!

You sure you had the right ISO?

I had the correct ISO and the experience with the lady’s notebook was as described. Maybe the notebook needed newer kernel code?

Your first mistake was attempting to unarchive to / in the first place. Like WTF. Why would this EVER be a sane idea?

It’s unlikely that an already properly installed bootloader just breaks. The base is Sid, Debian Unstable.

Just because breakage doesn’t happen all the time, there is still a higher than average chance. Sid is Debian’s beta test branch, not a rolling release distribution. It just wasn’t the right choice for the lady at the repair cafe.

I was corrected that LMDE is not based on Sid. I redact that part of my comments. The experience I had installing LMDE on a lady’s laptop at a repair cafe was as described, though.