Just that. Someone uploaded this photo of Zelensky allegedly taking a selfie in Kupiansk, which is supposed to be a city already taken by Russian forces. I am not really informed of the situation in Kupiansk, but this is not the issue for me.

In the Politics subreddit, where this was published, the comments are overwhelmingly pro Ukraine, which, well, checks out. But what I find kind of trollish, are the comments surrounding Zelenksy. It’s like reading the five-star comments of the Google Play Services app in the Play Store, or something. They repeatedly talk about how big and glorious are Zelensky’s balls? Praising his balls, even though, he is a smaller guy? They praise the bold actions of Zelensky calling him a European hero, imagining his heroic dialogues as in some cheap hollywood movie, etc. To me, it just feels utterly fake? I mean, AI fake.

What do you make of this, guys? Please, remember, it’s not about the conflict itself.

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    I don’t doubt a lot of the hype around Zelenskyy specifically is some psyop.

    That being said, Ukraine is objectively the victim of Russian aggression and facing a genocidal war of aggression from Russia.

    I see supporting Ukraine as the most pro-democracy, pro-proletariat position.

    Russia is a fascist oligarchy sending immigrants and kidnapped folks (like those from India) to go commit atrocities and die for Putin’s imperial ambitions.

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    I refuse to believe the default subs in reddit aren’t dominated by bots. There’s still good content in the niche subs, but I stay far away from any of the big ones, it’s all LLM generated ragebait.

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      I don’t have a Reddit account. It’s hard to navigate today’s Reddit niche subs without one. Also, I don’t care enough to somehow circumvent this problem, nevertheless, I think you’re right and niche subs out of the mainstream are probably doing fine.

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    Wow. This forum.

    “Ukraine has corruption so…” (Implied: the US should let Russia invade and annex them)

    “Russia and the US have some details in common if you blur your eyes so they are morally and politically identical”

    “Zelensky sucks”

    “How can anyone know what truth is in this topsy-turvy world?”

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    Reddit bans anyone not sucking off Zelensky so the echo chamber creates itself. Mods gladly self censor they do not even get paid for it.

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    If you only stick to the big media points, he seems a pretty heroic figure, still standing after getting invaded by one of the world’s superpowers (inb4 corrections and shit - Russia is the big bad in basically any modern conflict film. We’re talking layman optics here).

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    That’s not how selfies work, but it’s exactly the type of thing you get when you prompt an image generator for someone taking a selfie. Just saying.

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      Sure, but in this case? How “truth” becomes a casualty by putting an army of bots and trolls in a competition to praise Zelensky’s balls? That’s what I think it’s happening. I find it really sad, that they are not praising his strategies, his leadership, or statesmanship.

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        My point is that you don’t know the actual truth. Nor do I. We can’t.

        Bots and paid agents are not a new technique - in ancient times, countries would send spies undercover into enemy territory to sow discord. To rabble rouse and change public opinion. It’s the same now, just the tools have changed. No news source is entirely unbiased, even word of mouth is influenced. The only way you can determine the truth is by seeing it with your own, naked eyes. And even then, your own personal bias can change the context.

        Reddit is a platform where its’ easy to get the ears of a lot of people, so it’s a big target. It’s not Reddit’s fault, and Lemmy would suffer exactly the same if we had the numbers they do.

        What is different now on the world stage, mostly thanks to Trump, is that there’s no longer even any pretence to truth. The most powerful person in the world lies constantly, and his example proves that works. No shame, no integrity, no honesty - just lies and crude manipulation.

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          We can’t know the truth, we can agree on that. But I don’t need to, I’m not a religious person or an old school philosopher. At least, I know I’m not actively trying to manipulate anyone else, that’s good enough for me. That Trump is not helping me know more about the real world is something I’m convinced about because, as you know, he lies as he breathes.

          About Reddit, they are not an innocent party being played. They are collaborators of corrupt, powerful people. I could respect they denouncing these forces, or at least shutting down; whatever they are doing right now, I can’t. Some Lemmy instances are ideologically charged, but that’s fine.

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    You seem to have gotten several decent answers that you’ve dismissed. Do you just wanna talk about balls, OP? Because, I’m something of an expert on them.

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      What are you talking about? You can write your own post, or even create a community, to talk about testicles, so-called bravery, and or all kinds of balls. I’ve read the answers, not dismissed anything.

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    Well, I guess compared to the average world leader who sits comfy behind their desk all day, it might seem somewhat strange to see a leader out in the field. (Pun intended)

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    Reddit loves having a singular figure to make the focus of an overly simplistic epic bacon mythology, and they’ve already run Teddy Roosevelt and Chuck Norris into the ground

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    ukraine like it or not is the underdog but with some big indirect backing that has been very tepid in committing. The fact the war is still going with little real progess by the invader in this situation is amazing. Praising balls in this type of situation is common. Balls are even used with females with big and brass being the most common adjectives.

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      I know where it comes from, but personally, I’d be more enthusiastic of praising his brains if I was in a similar situation.

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        You don’t end up within 500 m of the grey zone using brains, that would be balls…

        In fact, even given the propaganda value of this stunt, it seems stupid and reckless.

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        When it comes to armed conflict your going to have to go to things like pbs or bbc to get that kind of perspective. Social media is going to be a bit more crass.

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          A bit, sure, but this is ridiculous to me. Anyway, we’ll soon know how important are balls to lead armed conflicts.

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      Presumably because he borrowed someone else’s for a selfie shot.

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        He refused to leave the plane without a real soldier jacket and all they had around to spare was a women’s size.

        I’m just kidding, could you even imagine a high ranking government official being that childish and insecure?