Do you see the contradiction between the following two statements
Nope!
Maths textbooks never use the word “juxtaposition”
Use of the present tense, no reference to the past at all
A textbook from1912
before you or I was even born
Need to work on your comprehension dude if you see a contradiction there
Is a textbook from 1912 not a textbook?
Does anything in what I said refer to textbooks in the past? That would be past tense, “have never used”. Need to work on your comprehension dude
Does “never” mean something different where you’re from?
Is there no difference between past tense and present tense where you are from?
Your exact words were “Maths textbooks never use the word”.
Yep, exact use of present tense there
Do you stand by that statement now?
Yep
Do you want to admit it was incorrect?
Nope
This is actually even clearer than the lie
Not a lie. Nothing I have ever said is a lie
where you said you didn’t use different screenshots
Never said that either liar. Noted lack of screenshots, or have you still not worked out how to do that yet?
You get the same result if you don’t press the plus button at that point
No you don’t! a+bxc and (a+b)xc aren’t the same thing! 🤣🤣🤣
In what example in the manual
Unlike you I have an actual calculator, no need to look in manuals for how they work. Other dude posted a link where you can buy one for under $10. Go ahead and get one, and let me know what answer it gives you to 2+3x4. I’ll wait 🤣🤣🤣
There is no such example
Hence I can confirm it on my own “non-scientific, non-graphing” calculator, unlike you who appears to not even own a calculator at all, and so is grasping at straws with online manuals 🤣🤣🤣
The annotated screenshot you keep posting is an example of left-to-right evaluation
No it isn’t! It’s an example of evaluating when you press the equals key 🤣🤣🤣 I knew you wouldn’t admit to being wrong. 🙄
You’re just wrongly claiming that pressing the + button for the second time changes the behaviour of the manual
Says person lying about the += button, which acts as a + button when followed by a number, and as an = button when followed by anything else. Note that pressing it turns a+b into (a+b) and not a+b+ 🙄
You’re just wrongly claiming that pressing the + button for the second time changes the behaviour of the manual
says person lying about how a += button works 🙄
Your screenshot says that “calculations can usually be reconstructed as simple chains”
Yep, therefore it is a chain calculator, Mr. needs to go to remedial reading classes
You’re using that as evidence that the calculator is not a normal calculator
can’t do that with a normal calculator, which you would know if you had one! 🤣🤣🤣
It’s so interesting that you couldn’t find anything in the manual saying, “this is a special kind of calculator”
says person lying about the screenshot saying you can use chains with it 🙄
A mystery.
It’s not a mystery why you ignore what’s in screenshots - can’t admit to being wrong about anything 🙄 Your latest adventure involves pretending that present tense means past tense
Buddy, “chain calculators” as you call them are exactly the basic, four-function, stackless, cheapo calculators you can buy for three quid
says person revealing his lack of knowledge about different types of calculators, and also that he is lacking 3 quid to buy one and try it first hand
can’t admit that they’re normal,
says person who doesn’t own a normal calculator, can’t admit they aren’t normal, because can’t admit to being wrong about anything 🙄
I’m sure I have one lying around somewhere,
I’m sure you don’t, or you wouldn’t be hunting around online manuals desperately looking for something to twist into agreeing with you
Want to make a bet on what it’ll output?
with a proven liar. Nope. I’m sure you would go out and buy a chain calculator, then claim it was a “normal” calculator you just had lying around which you magically happened to find
It’s weird that your pettiness goes as far as not taking the W when it’s handed to you, dude
It’s weird that you’re pretending that you admitted to begin wrong about something when you didn’t. Wait a minute, no it isn’t. We’ve already established you’re a gaslighter who can’t admit to being wrong about anything 🙄
Use of the present tense, no reference to the past at all
So, “textbooks never use the word juxtaposition” only refers to textbooks that are currently being written? Being printed right this second?
Because every single textbook you’ve cited, I absolutely guarantee it… was written in the past!
How shall we make sense of this conundrum? Well, it’s simple if you speak English: the non-continuous present tense in English is used to express general facts. Thus “I never use drugs” doesn’t mean the same as “I am not using drugs at the moment” but implies something about the past.
So yeah, you absolutely said the wrong thing, and your reason for using it is stupid. If you were any kind of reasonable person and not someone incapable of admitting the slightest mistake, you would have said, “oh, sorry, I meant that textbooks don’t use the word ‘juxtaposition’ any more”. You wouldn’t still be saying, “nope, nothing wrong with what I said even though it was clearly at best misleading!”
Unlike you I have an actual calculator, no need to look in manuals for how they work. Other dude posted a link where you can buy one for under $10. Go ahead and get one, and let me know what answer it gives you to 2+3x4. I’ll wai
Mate, try and keep track. We’re talking about a specific calculator and its specific manual. Your calculator is not relevant to that one. You are making claims about the operation of the Sinclair Executive that you can’t back up.
Note that pressing it turns a+b into (a+b) and not a+b+
Yes, and how much stack space does this calculator have, again? Oh, that’s right, you haven’t the slightest clue.
It has memory to store exactly three numbers. One operand. One accumulator. And one explicitly manipulated with the memory buttons. Where does it store a and b after you have typed a + b x? Where does it store it?
Now, if you want to talk about your favourite calculator, let’s do it. Post a photo or video of you doing exactly this! Tell us the model so I can look up the manual! I won’t start telling you things about your calculator that I can’t demonstrate, either.
Says person lying
“Says person lying” is your favourite deflection. It’s as childish as “NUH-UH!”. You need to reply to everything single clause, but have nothing to contribute. Your pathetic inability to come up with anything resembling an argument entertains me though, so keep doing it.
It’s so interesting that you couldn’t find anything in the manual saying, “this is a special kind of calculator”
says person lying about the screenshot saying you can use chains with it
You can use chains with any calculator or without a calculator, pal. “Calculations can usually be reconstructed as simple chains” is just a fact about arithmetic calculations, isn’t it. This is even worse than pretending that “never use” means “not using this moment”. I bet you accuse people of bad reading comprehension a lot, don’t you. The common factor (ZING) is you!
with a proven liar. Nope.
Pathetic, but expected.
I’m sure you would go out and buy a chain calculator, then claim it was a “normal” calculator you just had lying around which you magically happened to find
The calculator I have found was a freebie handed out at some event. Presumably that wouldn’t be a “niche” calculator.
If I google “chain calculator” the results I get are for bicycle chains. If I go on Amazon and search for “chain calculator”, I get calculators on keychains. You seem to have made this term up, and I have no idea how, even if I didn’t have a calculator lying around, I would go and find this niche product.
But a four-function calculator, or a stackless calculator - these are all terms I understand. And on such calculators - the calculators we all had in primary school, If you press the following sequence of buttons: 2 + 3 x 5 =, the answer it will give is 25.
It’s strange, isn’t it, how you have to accuse developers and project managers with decades of experience of inexplicably introducing inexcusable bugs into calculator software (even though they can make scientific calculator modes work correctly!), can’t bring yourself to admit that such calculators were normal, yet there’s such a simple explanation! They’re emulating basic four-function calculators that have existed for decades.
It’s weird that you’re pretending that you admitted to begin wrong
Because every single textbook you’ve cited, I absolutely guarantee it… was written in the past!
But being used in schools right now, and you’re desperately trying to twist my words around to mean something else because you can’t find any textbooks which say juxtaposition, except for one from 1912 🤣🤣🤣
How shall we make sense of this conundrum?
You’re the only one who has issues with understanding present and past tense dude, you’re the only one trying to use a 1912 textbook in the argument.
“I never use drugs” doesn’t mean the same as “I am not using drugs at the moment”
Yes it does, because “I never use drugs” isn’t the same as “I have never used drugs” 🙄
So yeah, you absolutely said the wrong thing
I absolutely didn’t Mr. I can only find it in a 1912 textbook 🤣🤣🤣
your reason for using it is stupid.
says person trying to bring a 1912 textbook into the argument only to avoid admitting having been wrong 🙄
If you were any kind of reasonable person and not someone incapable of admitting the slightest mistake
So not like you, which I’m not 😂
you would have said, “oh, sorry, I meant that textbooks don’t use the word ‘juxtaposition’ any more”
It’s already there in the use of the present tense
Mate, try and keep track. We’re talking about a specific calculator and its specific manual.
And it specifically says you are wrong 🙄
Your calculator is not relevant to that one.
So when you said all, you didn’t really mean all, so an admission that you were wrong about “all”. Got it. Thanks for playing. Glad we’re done with the “basic” calculator topic then
“Says person lying” is your favourite
statement of fact
deflection
says person talking about calculators that don’t have brackets because he’s absolutely proven wrong about The Distributive Law, and is trying to deflect away from admitting being wrong about that 🙄
the calculators we all had in primary school, If you press the following sequence of buttons: 2 + 3 x 5 =, the answer it will give is
17
even though they can make scientific calculator modes work correctly!
Nope! They don’t! With the exception of MathGPT, they all ignore The Distributive Law, you know, the actual original topic 🤣🤣🤣 The Windows calculator in Scientific mode says 8/2(1+3)=16, because, when you type it in, it changes it to 8/2x(1+3). It’s hilarious how you just keep making easily proven wrong statements and bring more embarrassment upon yourself, instead of just, you know, checking facts first 🤣🤣🤣
Note that neither MathGPT, nor the Sharp calculator, forcibly add in a multiply sign where it doesn’t belong. Welcome to dumb programmer who has forgotten how The Distributive Law works and didn’t bother checking in a Maths textbook first.
yet there’s such a simple explanation! They’re emulating basic four-function calculators that have existed for decades
No they’re not! Just like they’re also not emulating Scientific calculators that have existed for decades! 🤣🤣🤣
The only reason we’re still talking about the old textbook is because you said that something never happens which, in fact, has happened. I’m glad though that I can now honestly say “I never make mistakes” because all mistakes I’ve made are in the past, which we know such a present-tense sentence has no bearing on, because the present tense concerns only this current moment and no others!
I never make mistakes, I never eat or drink, I never breathe (holding my breath as I write, you see), I never move, but never stay still! Well you’ve opened up a whole new genre of nonsense poetry! I assume you’d really agree that I am never wrong - right?
Now, it’s strange you didn’t take up my offer to show this calculator of yours (that you were so proud of that you tried to insert it into a conversation about a different one) so come on, show me a picture of it! Or better yet, a video of you typing in 2+3×5=. I can hardly admit that I was wrong about my general statement about basic calculators if I can’t even confirm that yours exists. My offer stands, even if you still want to insist that my freebie calculator is a “niche” one (what niche are you even saying the are used in? You never said. And have you given up on calling them “chain calculators”?)
Nothing to say about the nonexistent stack depth of the Sinclair Executive huh? Guess you finally checked out the spec sheet for its chip and found out how many bytes of memory it had. You get a hint of this in the manual, because it says (pg 6), “a problem such as (a+b)c + (d+e)f cannot be done as a simple calculation, it must be split into two parts.” There is no reason that it would need to be split if the calculator had a stack, as it could store (a+b)c on the stack while the user entered (d+e)f. It can’t though, because it doesn’t have a stack. You have no explanation for why this calculator could not perform this calculation without splitting it.
Now, you’ve done a silly with the software calculators there, you see, we’re talking about order of operations, not how calculators render implicit multiplication. We can get to your la-la beliefs on the latter at some point, but you really ought to keep these things straight in your mind.
But for the sake of clarity, I’ll rephrase: you have no sane explanation for why scientific mode tends to obey a different order of operations than basic mode on software calculators. I do, and it’s because they’re emulating basic, four-function calculators which had no stack.
Nope!
Use of the present tense, no reference to the past at all
before you or I was even born
Need to work on your comprehension dude if you see a contradiction there
Does anything in what I said refer to textbooks in the past? That would be past tense, “have never used”. Need to work on your comprehension dude
Is there no difference between past tense and present tense where you are from?
Yep, exact use of present tense there
Yep
Nope
Not a lie. Nothing I have ever said is a lie
Never said that either liar. Noted lack of screenshots, or have you still not worked out how to do that yet?
No you don’t! a+bxc and (a+b)xc aren’t the same thing! 🤣🤣🤣
Unlike you I have an actual calculator, no need to look in manuals for how they work. Other dude posted a link where you can buy one for under $10. Go ahead and get one, and let me know what answer it gives you to 2+3x4. I’ll wait 🤣🤣🤣
Hence I can confirm it on my own “non-scientific, non-graphing” calculator, unlike you who appears to not even own a calculator at all, and so is grasping at straws with online manuals 🤣🤣🤣
No it isn’t! It’s an example of evaluating when you press the equals key 🤣🤣🤣 I knew you wouldn’t admit to being wrong. 🙄
Says person lying about the += button, which acts as a + button when followed by a number, and as an = button when followed by anything else. Note that pressing it turns a+b into (a+b) and not a+b+ 🙄
says person lying about how a += button works 🙄
Yep, therefore it is a chain calculator, Mr. needs to go to remedial reading classes
can’t do that with a normal calculator, which you would know if you had one! 🤣🤣🤣
says person lying about the screenshot saying you can use chains with it 🙄
It’s not a mystery why you ignore what’s in screenshots - can’t admit to being wrong about anything 🙄 Your latest adventure involves pretending that present tense means past tense
says person revealing his lack of knowledge about different types of calculators, and also that he is lacking 3 quid to buy one and try it first hand
says person who doesn’t own a normal calculator, can’t admit they aren’t normal, because can’t admit to being wrong about anything 🙄
I’m sure you don’t, or you wouldn’t be hunting around online manuals desperately looking for something to twist into agreeing with you
with a proven liar. Nope. I’m sure you would go out and buy a chain calculator, then claim it was a “normal” calculator you just had lying around which you magically happened to find
It’s weird that you’re pretending that you admitted to begin wrong about something when you didn’t. Wait a minute, no it isn’t. We’ve already established you’re a gaslighter who can’t admit to being wrong about anything 🙄
So, “textbooks never use the word juxtaposition” only refers to textbooks that are currently being written? Being printed right this second?
Because every single textbook you’ve cited, I absolutely guarantee it… was written in the past!
How shall we make sense of this conundrum? Well, it’s simple if you speak English: the non-continuous present tense in English is used to express general facts. Thus “I never use drugs” doesn’t mean the same as “I am not using drugs at the moment” but implies something about the past.
So yeah, you absolutely said the wrong thing, and your reason for using it is stupid. If you were any kind of reasonable person and not someone incapable of admitting the slightest mistake, you would have said, “oh, sorry, I meant that textbooks don’t use the word ‘juxtaposition’ any more”. You wouldn’t still be saying, “nope, nothing wrong with what I said even though it was clearly at best misleading!”
Mate, try and keep track. We’re talking about a specific calculator and its specific manual. Your calculator is not relevant to that one. You are making claims about the operation of the Sinclair Executive that you can’t back up.
Yes, and how much stack space does this calculator have, again? Oh, that’s right, you haven’t the slightest clue.
It has memory to store exactly three numbers. One operand. One accumulator. And one explicitly manipulated with the memory buttons. Where does it store a and b after you have typed a + b x? Where does it store it?
Now, if you want to talk about your favourite calculator, let’s do it. Post a photo or video of you doing exactly this! Tell us the model so I can look up the manual! I won’t start telling you things about your calculator that I can’t demonstrate, either.
“Says person lying” is your favourite deflection. It’s as childish as “NUH-UH!”. You need to reply to everything single clause, but have nothing to contribute. Your pathetic inability to come up with anything resembling an argument entertains me though, so keep doing it.
You can use chains with any calculator or without a calculator, pal. “Calculations can usually be reconstructed as simple chains” is just a fact about arithmetic calculations, isn’t it. This is even worse than pretending that “never use” means “not using this moment”. I bet you accuse people of bad reading comprehension a lot, don’t you. The common factor (ZING) is you!
Pathetic, but expected.
The calculator I have found was a freebie handed out at some event. Presumably that wouldn’t be a “niche” calculator.
If I google “chain calculator” the results I get are for bicycle chains. If I go on Amazon and search for “chain calculator”, I get calculators on keychains. You seem to have made this term up, and I have no idea how, even if I didn’t have a calculator lying around, I would go and find this niche product.
But a four-function calculator, or a stackless calculator - these are all terms I understand. And on such calculators - the calculators we all had in primary school, If you press the following sequence of buttons: 2 + 3 x 5 =, the answer it will give is 25.
It’s strange, isn’t it, how you have to accuse developers and project managers with decades of experience of inexplicably introducing inexcusable bugs into calculator software (even though they can make scientific calculator modes work correctly!), can’t bring yourself to admit that such calculators were normal, yet there’s such a simple explanation! They’re emulating basic four-function calculators that have existed for decades.
Lol OK kiddo!
But being used in schools right now, and you’re desperately trying to twist my words around to mean something else because you can’t find any textbooks which say juxtaposition, except for one from 1912 🤣🤣🤣
You’re the only one who has issues with understanding present and past tense dude, you’re the only one trying to use a 1912 textbook in the argument.
Yes it does, because “I never use drugs” isn’t the same as “I have never used drugs” 🙄
I absolutely didn’t Mr. I can only find it in a 1912 textbook 🤣🤣🤣
says person trying to bring a 1912 textbook into the argument only to avoid admitting having been wrong 🙄
So not like you, which I’m not 😂
It’s already there in the use of the present tense
And it specifically says you are wrong 🙄
So when you said all, you didn’t really mean all, so an admission that you were wrong about “all”. Got it. Thanks for playing. Glad we’re done with the “basic” calculator topic then
statement of fact
says person talking about calculators that don’t have brackets because he’s absolutely proven wrong about The Distributive Law, and is trying to deflect away from admitting being wrong about that 🙄
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Nope! They don’t! With the exception of MathGPT, they all ignore The Distributive Law, you know, the actual original topic 🤣🤣🤣 The Windows calculator in Scientific mode says 8/2(1+3)=16, because, when you type it in, it changes it to 8/2x(1+3). It’s hilarious how you just keep making easily proven wrong statements and bring more embarrassment upon yourself, instead of just, you know, checking facts first 🤣🤣🤣
Sharp calculator obeying The Distributive Law
Note that neither MathGPT, nor the Sharp calculator, forcibly add in a multiply sign where it doesn’t belong. Welcome to dumb programmer who has forgotten how The Distributive Law works and didn’t bother checking in a Maths textbook first.
No they’re not! Just like they’re also not emulating Scientific calculators that have existed for decades! 🤣🤣🤣
The only reason we’re still talking about the old textbook is because you said that something never happens which, in fact, has happened. I’m glad though that I can now honestly say “I never make mistakes” because all mistakes I’ve made are in the past, which we know such a present-tense sentence has no bearing on, because the present tense concerns only this current moment and no others!
I never make mistakes, I never eat or drink, I never breathe (holding my breath as I write, you see), I never move, but never stay still! Well you’ve opened up a whole new genre of nonsense poetry! I assume you’d really agree that I am never wrong - right?
Now, it’s strange you didn’t take up my offer to show this calculator of yours (that you were so proud of that you tried to insert it into a conversation about a different one) so come on, show me a picture of it! Or better yet, a video of you typing in 2+3×5=. I can hardly admit that I was wrong about my general statement about basic calculators if I can’t even confirm that yours exists. My offer stands, even if you still want to insist that my freebie calculator is a “niche” one (what niche are you even saying the are used in? You never said. And have you given up on calling them “chain calculators”?)
Nothing to say about the nonexistent stack depth of the Sinclair Executive huh? Guess you finally checked out the spec sheet for its chip and found out how many bytes of memory it had. You get a hint of this in the manual, because it says (pg 6), “a problem such as (a+b)c + (d+e)f cannot be done as a simple calculation, it must be split into two parts.” There is no reason that it would need to be split if the calculator had a stack, as it could store (a+b)c on the stack while the user entered (d+e)f. It can’t though, because it doesn’t have a stack. You have no explanation for why this calculator could not perform this calculation without splitting it.
Now, you’ve done a silly with the software calculators there, you see, we’re talking about order of operations, not how calculators render implicit multiplication. We can get to your la-la beliefs on the latter at some point, but you really ought to keep these things straight in your mind.
But for the sake of clarity, I’ll rephrase: you have no sane explanation for why scientific mode tends to obey a different order of operations than basic mode on software calculators. I do, and it’s because they’re emulating basic, four-function calculators which had no stack.