im new to lemmy and i wanna know your perspective about ai
AI is riding the surface of a monster bubble and anyone gleefully waiting for the pop has no idea what that’s going to do the US economy, and then everyone elses.
All but 1% of US economic growth last year was AI development and speculation. Combine that with the US passing, for the first time, 200%+ on the Buffett Index and we are screwed.
For reference, the Buffett Index is total stock market valuation vs. GDP. There is better than twice the dollars in the stock market than we produce in a year. The index was around 130% in 1929 and 2008.
wait, that caption on the iron giant is unironically really funny.
It’s hot garbage and people who use it to create images/music are the polar opposite of artists.
Wow, you don’t know who that is but you’d ask if we’d call him a clanker?
From a practical point, useful in starting a base on projects, but sucks on further progress. I’ve used it in coding and 3d motion, and in both my experience it was like that.
From an environmental point, it’s an overengineered mess. Local models are satisfactory for most use cases, and we don’t really need huge computing clusters dedicated for AI.
I strongly dislike how LLMs are inserted everywhere.
But LLMs are just one kind of AI and I’m not going to stop using the kinds that actually are useful and appropriate.
I support running or using AI locally since it’s privacy respecting and doesn’t damage environment since the Local AI uses energy to function from the device which it’s running on locally. But in terms of other AI, nope.
idk who that character is, but i don’t like AI, it is polluting the environment and polluting the internet, all while disrespecting the work of artists (visual artists, musicians, voice actors, writers, photographers, etc)
opt-out is not consent
It’s the Iron Giant.
idk who is that character too. i just wanted to put an image
It’s a really good film, and I recommend The Iron Giant to everyone.
He’s Superman, a good guy, not a clanker
I wouldn’t call anything a clanker because I’m not a Boomer
I love AI. Who made it by the way?
I’m a fan of the technology, I’ve been using it for various projects and I see a lot of potential. But there’s widespread anti-AI sentiment on the Fediverse. I notice you’re getting a lot of downvotes for merely asking about it.
At the moment, AI is just a glorified autocomplete and I think it does more harm than good. (For LLMs). Is it a useful tool? Definitely. Should it replace jobs? Hell no. Is it being used as an excuse for the current recession and layoffs caused by offshoring? Hell yes. Is it killing the internet and propagating fake news? Definitely
If we’re talking about other applications (computer vision, image processing etc), then yes. I think think the surveillance states (face verification) and Ukraine-Russia war heavily uses these applications
glorified autocomplete
People repeat that like it has some value, but it’s really just words. If autocomplete is glorified to the point of outputting something amazing, what is the value of saying it. I’m not saying it is, but if autocomplete spits out Shakespeare, “glorified autocomplete” is amazing.
I mean, in a sense, brains are just glorified autocomplete. So…?
It’s an apt description of how these models function. They predict the most likely response to the input based on their training data. A brain can grasp concepts and reason about them - an LLM cannot
It is a decent description for sure. But one without practical value. And yes brains can grasp concepts and reason, but by using a similar mechanism. One uses chemistry for electronic potential difference for neuron weights, but they are nevertheless more similar than one might think. Brains don’t have some supernatural special sauce; they are weighted neural networks.
But again, I’m not saying the description is wrong. It just has no value. Glorified autocomplete can mean pretty amazing outputs. “Just glorified autocomplete” is diminutive without purpose.
Average user here thinks AI is synonymous with LLMs and that it’s not only not intelligent but also bad for the environment, immoral to use because it’s trained on copyrighted content, a total job-killer that’s going to leave everyone unemployed, soulless slop that can’t create real art or writing, and basically just a lazy cheat for people who lack actual talent or skills.
And that’s a good thing.
It’s not just that that’s what the average person thinks, but that’s really the only kind of AI they’re likely to come in direct contact with or is the kind being applied to systems that are directly undermining their lives.
ML has been used for over a decade now in things like cyber security for behavioral analysis and EDR (Endpoint Detection and Response) systems. I’ve helped a friend use SLEAP, which analyzes specifically formatted videos of animals to catalog interactions over dozens of hours of footage instead of needing to manually scrub it. In these ways, the serious scientist/engineer does not care what the average person thinks of AI, it has no bearing on the functioning of these systems or the work they perform. The only people that care about the sentiment of the average person are the people that need to keep the hype train going for their product valuations to which I have nothing to say but a full-throated, “Fuck 'em”
And they’re right about all of that except the AI equals LLMs thing, but that’s forgivable because the LLM hustlers have managed to make the terms synonymous in most people’s minds through a massive marketing effort.
I would say they are right in that what companies are currently selling as AI is mostly just LLM or machine learning. We don’t have true intelligence. The separation is between what AI did mean in the past before the hype train tried to sell the current snake oil.
He would be true AI. I would shower him with love.
Just because some cock sucking finance bros call an LLM a AI, doesn’t make it an AI.
You’re not saying “cock sucking” pejoratively, are you ?
I think the people who do that to me are pretty cool tbh
I don’t use the term cocksucker myself, but I think fact that vulgarity already gives it negative connotation. Like, I didn’t pat my wife on the head last night and call her my cute little cocksucker. I can imagine that could be sometime else’s pillow talk, but that would leave me touch starved for a while.
I don’t THINK calling a gay man a pussyfucker would have the same weight, but I don’t have deep enough conversations with gay men to really know. I have heard that some men pride themselves in never having been with having never been with a woman, so maybe it would still hurt.
On the flip side, just calling someone a fucker can be enough to start a fight.
I’m not going to pretend that the poster meant to use the word as asshole, because cocksucker definitely hits different to male pride. I don’t think I would use the word to hurt someone I was angry with, but who knows what might come out when emotions are high. I don’t plan on using the word for fighting, but insulting someone could be enough to cause someone to attack riskily. If you don’t practice what you say, then you might just repeat something you will regret.
To summarize, I hope the poster isn’t a bigot, but when given the chance they appear to have doubled down. Guess you got your answer.
Edit: Not wasting my time with discussion starved trolls.
Why still specify they’re sucking cock, then ? They could just be evil money-hoarding pieces of shit, couldn’t they ?
I was joking but I didn’t see your user name. I will not interact with you and waste anyone’s time anymore. Goodbye.
Hey! Don’t insult shit like that.
Atari chess opponent is AI
Age of Empires 2 AI is a cheatin’ bitch.
If every cheating bitch is an AI, then so is the Dancer of the Boreal Valley.
The problem isn’t that “everything is AI” - it’s that people think AI means way more than it actually does.
That superintelligent sci-fi assistant you’re picturing? That’s called Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) or Artificial Superintelligence (ASI). Both are subcategories of AI, but they’re worlds apart from Large Language Models (LLMs). LLMs are intelligent in a narrow sense: they’re good at one thing - churning out natural-sounding language - but they’re not generally intelligent.
Every AGI is AI, but not every AI is AGI.
first ever clanker?
Allen Newell’s Logic Theorist (1955) is broadly considered the first ever AI system.
My opinion of AI/LLMs aside, I think that even the joking use of a made-up slur against non-humans still legitimizes the general use of slurs (and many who use real slurs believe their targets are subhuman).
This is a very good point and to take it further, it almost legitimizes the AI as well. By using the slurs against the AI in an effort to dehumanize it, it in turn places it in more anthropomorphized position of needing to be dehumanized, if that makes sense.
And yeah, I just find slurs crude and distasteful in any form.
Slurs seems to be okay for things considered sub-human or not human at all which should be viewed as extremely ironic but for some reason isn’t.
Dehumanization is when influencers convince some humans to put other humans in 5hat subhuman category, along with the cockaroaches and varmints.
