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    Funny and all, but interesting, the life span of appliences has remained fairly steady: https://studyfinds.org/appliances-made-to-last/

    The study (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/share/EWYZVBTQDFJXHTV9PPUQ?target=10.1111%2Fjiec.13608) found that most appliances last a similar number of years, and that the number of cycles each appliance lasts has increased (ie we use them more often). notable exception was a stove.

    Basically, survivorship bias.

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      Microsoft just basically tried to force most everyone using a Windows 10 system to purchase a new system, ostensibly over a flaw/shortcoming in the TPM module.

      Samsung just started pushing advertisements into their fridge’s Android displays.

      Apple and the mobile ISPs have been pushing a ‘replace every two years’ agenda for well over a decade.

      I think the ‘short life span’ here has more to do with the ‘modern CPU fridge controller’ “failing” due to planned obsolescence, and not as such the mechanics of the refrigerant systems themselves.

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        I mean, sure? but pretty much everyone of your examples is about general computing, and while i HATE the samsung fridge thing… it doesnt mean it will die any earlier.

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          Yes, but these new smart fridges are just classic fridges with a general purpose computer attached. Do you think Samsung is going to offer a replacement/upgrade kit for the embedded tablet, or do you think they’ll use it as leverage to sell you a new fridge?

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            Still doesn’t change when the physical components are likely to die.

            You are telling me I’m going to have to replace my car because it’s infotainment unit is out of date.

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              If the infotainment system doubles as the gearshift as a deliberate way to marry the two, yes! Try driving a Tesla (well don’t because of bad corporate ownership; but still, as example):

              • The steering wheel isn’t connected to the wheels, it’s connected to the computer.
              • The windshield wipers are controlled by the computer.
              • Everything in the security system checks in by the computer.
              • The car can be remotely disabled by the computer

              If they can make a vroom vroom box dependent on a computer, why do you think a chill box is exempt?

              • “I’m sorry, but the temperature control requires registering an account in the app”
              • “Oh, the in-door icebox needs a subscription, but you’re welcome to use trays in the freezer if you prefer”
              • “You missed your installment payment, please pay in 3 days or cooling functionality will be suspended”
              • “The child door lock has been automatically engaged for your safety”
              • The fridge of the future requires an always on internet connection”

              You think CEOs aren’t just itching to pull crap like this? What use is it if the motor technically operates, if the controls simply refuse to turn it on?

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                I’m sorry, but I’m talking about the real world, where things actually happen.

                I already shared you the study on lifespan of appliances over the decades, and how the old ones we still working are usually due to survivorship bias, I’m not sure what more you want.

                I’m just not interested in arguing made up hypotheticals.