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    Most are well read and strongly informed about the developments, recent and historical, surrounding the various prominent ongoing political struggles.

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      Most are neither well-read nor ‘strongly informed’, unless coprophagic transmission of fascist propaganda is what you count as ‘strongly informed’.

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      Not well read enough to understand the hypocrisy inherent to tankie views (and the implication for enabling such russian/chinese propaganda).

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          Saying “you shifted the goalposts” is not a magical I win button.

          I stand by what I say, ML’s are not knowledge about most things that they discuss and are often extremely hypocritical.

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            They may be hypocritical. They also tend to be informed about current political struggles ongoing around the world.

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              Bullshit. It’s all online roleplay. It’s either trying to be edgy, open and committed demagoguery or complete disconnection from reality.

              I will give you a good anecdote. This was when I still had a Twitter account.

              Certain commie statues were being removed in Kyiv and this was highlight by the British ambassador. Bunch of scumbag ML’s started to chimp out about this.

              My reply was: “You’ve never been to Ukraine, you don’t don’t speak Ukrainian, you don’t walk in Kyiv’s park, you don’t pay local taxes, you live in the UK and you’re coming up with this bullshit…”

              The reply I got was “This is your history!!! Communism bla bla bla”

              You got to be a special case of stupid to say something like that.

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              Made-up struggles, like Ukraine being a Western puppet used to fight Russia, rather than it being a dictator acting on his imperialist idea of rebuilding the Soviet Union. Ask a tankie about the Holodomor and you’ll see the actual depth of their so-called knowledge.

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                  Are you implying Putin’s own writings and statements come from the State Department or something?

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                    Yep. You are dealing a person who straight up thinks it’s okay for Russia to invade Ukraine because the US also invaded a bunch of countries. You’ll hear a bunch of bullshit about history and geopolitics as parents post up pictures of dead kids.

                    They are on the other side of the same coin as MAGA and they want their chosen team to win.

                    These kind of people are always a problem. They only want things to get better for their groups and are perfectly willing to champion atrocity if it fits their views.

                    Paying attention to the daily slaughter of Ukrainians who are victims of imperial Russia should be consistent with supporting Palestinians and the democratically elected Venezuela government. They can hold what seem like counter views because it’s not about atrocity against civilians. It’s about what side gets to inflict it.

                    They truly believe paying attention to the Bucha massacre degrades the importance of US war crimes.

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                    The State Department wants you to feel strong animus and contempt toward Putin, while remaining ignorant and incurious respecting the more general political maneuvering and historical developments.

                    In particular, it wants you to feel distracted from US imperialist atrocities and ambitions for imperialist expansion.

                    Writings and statements normally will not be fabricated out of whole cloth, as overt lies, but they will be presented as cherry picked and obfuscated, serving as a distraction from deeper issues and broader background.