Important progress has been made regarding bringing MLS end-to-end encryption to the ActivityPub protocol, with developers already building implementations and providing feedback to a future version of the protocol spec.

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    Matrix is decentralized but its not federating in a way like activity pub is doing

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      ActivityPub isn’t the only way to federate.
      Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That’s what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other.

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        What??? I thought being part of Federation meant being part of the WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION!

        OOOOH YEAH, SEE I’M ALWAYS THINKIN THINKIN THINKIN, YEAH. AND WHEN IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE DO THING IN THE RING! DIG IT! THE TOWER OF POWER TOO SWEET TO BE SOUR, FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY! OOOOOOH YEEEAAAHHHH!!!

        Pomp and circumstance plays over the house speakers

        ELIZABETH!!!

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        No that’s decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform.

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          share the info natively outside the platform.

          I’m not even sure that makes sense.
          Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol?

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          That’s a distinction that only matters to nerds.

          Luckily most of us on here are nerds so it’s all good.

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      How so? It’s certainly very similar.

      The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients.

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        But all those clients are matrix, not say some discord, some fluxer, some stoat, etc.

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          Yes?

          “Matrix” is the protocol.

          The equivalent is ActivityPub, not discord, fluxer or stoat.

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          The Fediverse isn’t federated.

          All those clients are ActivityPub, not say some Twitter, some Facebook, some Bluesky, etc.

          How is that different?

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          Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix.

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            Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix?

            Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what’s the problem here?

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        Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix