I’m skeptical. I just think there is a higher percentage of people who use that label to justify their persecution complexes, which justify their anger/rage that they direct towards others. I bet you the vast majority of people who rail about ‘normies’ are themselves, are very much normies themselves.
even IRL I have seen a huge uptick the past few years of people, in casual conversation, self-diagnosing themselves with conditions to excuse their poor behaviors, or sometimes even their simple mistakes. I don’t understand any of it, personally. As far as I can tell mental health terminology has become basically slang at this point, whereas 10-20 years ago it was nonexistent in pop culture and casual speech.
There are a lot of people out there, so many things can be true at once.
I think it’s inevitable that some people use labels as excuses just because awareness of those conditions is so much higher. I also think it’s inevitable that there are a lot of people who struggled all their life with things that are difficult to diagnose or weren’t on the minds of parents and teachers 30 years ago.
And there’s probably no way to ever say definitively, with evidence, either way on this – but it would blow my fucking mind to find out that Lemmy didn’t have a neurospicy percentage of participants significantly higher than the general population.
And even if that were known to be untrue, I think Lemmy also attracts people who are more aware, open, and accepting of that stuff in themselves and others.
There is a massive difference between officially being diagnosed as being autistic and self-identifying as it. A differences based in clinical science.
What is messed up is people can’t acknowledge this, or act like this difference is oppressive and problematic.’
According to self-diagnosis, I can easily convince myself I’m autistic or a million other mental conditions. But I am not. Because I’m not a professional clinician, and even if I was self-diagnosis is a violation of professional ethics.
You seem to think everyone has the option to become diagnosed but that’s not the case. I’ve tried to be diagnosed and literally doctors seem to avoid it. And I can actually afford doctors while many cannot.
I have mostly avoided self diagnosing myself as autistic but there are many signs of it. I shouldn’t be blamed if I did say I’m probably slightly autistic. I’m not sure why an internet rando would know more about my situation than I do.
literally everyone is slightly autistic. that is a useless classification.
it’s like saying have to eat food or you have to poop. so does litereally every other person who ever existed… it’s not a distinguishing aspect of any one person over another.
when you self-diagnose you are doing nothing more than taking a horoscope. i bet you are a ‘little bit of a Pisces’. too.
Everyone has most traits of most mental health issues to some extent. Its not a useless classification though. Classic example is everyone pees but if youre doing it 40 times a day its probably time for the doctors.
Well, how am I supposed to keep up with “politically correct” terminology if “ploticially correct” terminology keeps changing every year?
I learned this term from a diagnosed autist last year (after refereling to her as “autist”). She told me she’s very active in that community and that this was a preffered term. Now you tell me it’s basically a dog whistle?
I’ll tell you what, I’m just gonna call everyone a dumbass and be done with it! Red Forman that shit.
You aren’t supposed to keep up with that shit. It’s stupid.
Assuming it isn’t your professional job in some capacity.
My take is if people get offended at you not calling them some preferred nomenclature… they are assholes. Well-adjusted people typically don’t start a shitfit about such things. Nor is a single person’s testimony anything to make a broader assumption upon.
I very much would like to agree with that,but in my experience the effort/reward is worth it. As in, it’s only a little effort and it is very much appreciated. Even if you do it wrong every conversation, but cincerely promosie to do better next time. That still is appreciated.
It could be overused now where it wasn’t before. Or it could be where it was suppressed before. It may be somewhere in the middle. Which is better than being ignored and alienated, even if some use is more hype than realism.
I think we’re all on a spectrum in lots of different ways. Rainbows. Rainbows everywhere.
No he’s right. It s a spectrum and everyone is on it. That includes “perfectly average” is a dimension of that spectrum. Same goes for sexuality, it’s also a spectrum, so everyone’s at least a little bit gay.
I’m skeptical. I just think there is a higher percentage of people who use that label to justify their persecution complexes, which justify their anger/rage that they direct towards others. I bet you the vast majority of people who rail about ‘normies’ are themselves, are very much normies themselves.
even IRL I have seen a huge uptick the past few years of people, in casual conversation, self-diagnosing themselves with conditions to excuse their poor behaviors, or sometimes even their simple mistakes. I don’t understand any of it, personally. As far as I can tell mental health terminology has become basically slang at this point, whereas 10-20 years ago it was nonexistent in pop culture and casual speech.
There are a lot of people out there, so many things can be true at once.
I think it’s inevitable that some people use labels as excuses just because awareness of those conditions is so much higher. I also think it’s inevitable that there are a lot of people who struggled all their life with things that are difficult to diagnose or weren’t on the minds of parents and teachers 30 years ago.
And there’s probably no way to ever say definitively, with evidence, either way on this – but it would blow my fucking mind to find out that Lemmy didn’t have a neurospicy percentage of participants significantly higher than the general population.
And even if that were known to be untrue, I think Lemmy also attracts people who are more aware, open, and accepting of that stuff in themselves and others.
This is just a long way to say “in my day, no one was so called ‘autistic’”
There is a massive difference between officially being diagnosed as being autistic and self-identifying as it. A differences based in clinical science.
What is messed up is people can’t acknowledge this, or act like this difference is oppressive and problematic.’
According to self-diagnosis, I can easily convince myself I’m autistic or a million other mental conditions. But I am not. Because I’m not a professional clinician, and even if I was self-diagnosis is a violation of professional ethics.
You seem to think everyone has the option to become diagnosed but that’s not the case. I’ve tried to be diagnosed and literally doctors seem to avoid it. And I can actually afford doctors while many cannot.
I have mostly avoided self diagnosing myself as autistic but there are many signs of it. I shouldn’t be blamed if I did say I’m probably slightly autistic. I’m not sure why an internet rando would know more about my situation than I do.
literally everyone is slightly autistic. that is a useless classification.
it’s like saying have to eat food or you have to poop. so does litereally every other person who ever existed… it’s not a distinguishing aspect of any one person over another.
when you self-diagnose you are doing nothing more than taking a horoscope. i bet you are a ‘little bit of a Pisces’. too.
Everyone has most traits of most mental health issues to some extent. Its not a useless classification though. Classic example is everyone pees but if youre doing it 40 times a day its probably time for the doctors.
When I first responded, I thought you were only a little off from an opinion I might understand. I was wrong.
Also you contradicted the fuck out of yourself. You said if everyone is on the spectrum then no one is. So now you are nakedly foolish and ignorant.
Well, how am I supposed to keep up with “politically correct” terminology if “ploticially correct” terminology keeps changing every year?
I learned this term from a diagnosed autist last year (after refereling to her as “autist”). She told me she’s very active in that community and that this was a preffered term. Now you tell me it’s basically a dog whistle?
I’ll tell you what, I’m just gonna call everyone a dumbass and be done with it! Red Forman that shit.
Uh, “dumbass” has been used for decades to put people down who have intellectual deficiencies. This is 2026; you can’t call people dumbasses.
Cartman is still a fatass in 2026.
Or does he have a ‘lipid mass regulation deficiency’?
He’s just festively plump.
You aren’t supposed to keep up with that shit. It’s stupid.
Assuming it isn’t your professional job in some capacity.
My take is if people get offended at you not calling them some preferred nomenclature… they are assholes. Well-adjusted people typically don’t start a shitfit about such things. Nor is a single person’s testimony anything to make a broader assumption upon.
I very much would like to agree with that,but in my experience the effort/reward is worth it. As in, it’s only a little effort and it is very much appreciated. Even if you do it wrong every conversation, but cincerely promosie to do better next time. That still is appreciated.
It could be overused now where it wasn’t before. Or it could be where it was suppressed before. It may be somewhere in the middle. Which is better than being ignored and alienated, even if some use is more hype than realism.
I think we’re all on a spectrum in lots of different ways. Rainbows. Rainbows everywhere.
Saying we are all on the spectrum is the same as saying nobody is on it.
That’s why I’m skeptical. Saying you are autistic has no meaning anymore. Anyone could say it and believe it abotu themselves.
That’s VERY different than getting clinically diagnosed.
No he’s right. It s a spectrum and everyone is on it. That includes “perfectly average” is a dimension of that spectrum. Same goes for sexuality, it’s also a spectrum, so everyone’s at least a little bit gay.