The BES article you linked is more about conservation law than actual impacts and the studies it uses as example are primarily from places like north America and Australia where cats are invasive.
Right… Well when you get a chance to actually read the article rather than pretend you did, let me know…
And so do foxes and birds and rats and voles and every other kind of animal that passes through your garden.
And these don’t get canned food when prey animals have been over hunted. So they’ll starve and their population will be balanced against their prey. I’m starting to think I gave you too much credit saying you understood this issue…
they kill animals to talking about killing animals yourself
I’m interested in protecting biodiversity, sometimes that involves killing… Or you know… simply supervising your pets when they’re outside. But clearly you don’t have the capacity for responsibility.
Cool and I was attacked by a dog that came off its lead as a kid. But if I tried to tell you that people shouldn’t take there dogs for a walk, even on a lead and you were a selfish person that doesn’t give a shit about other people because you take your dog on walks, you would just (rightly) think I’m crazy.
You’re comparing someone who tried and failed to control their animal. Which is bad. To yourself, who refuses to control their animal, which is easily 100x worse.
but we still let them play outside, because keeping them inside their entire lives would be incredibly cruel.
How fulfilling do you think the lives of all the birds precious Mittens has killed have been?
I’m not the one making threats of violence over the internet.
You’re the one actually committing violence by releasing a violent predator unsupervised. How do you know it hasn’t attacked a child?
Also you literally started this with petty name calling, so it’s pretty rich of you to start clutching your pearls now lil guy.
I know you’re very worked up right now. But take a breathe and try to calm down.
I did read it, hence why I pointed out it’s not actually a study on the effect of cats in the UK. But on conservation law and they extrapolate data from other countries.
Maybe you should read it since it’s pretty clear you just googled the data you wanted to find and copied the first link on Google.
Cool, they still shit in your garden if they don’t get canned food. Which was the point you were whining about in your last comment.
If you’re so interested in protecting biodiversity, why do you (presumably) live in a house with windows? As many places will tell you Windows kill massive amounts of birds each year, comparable to that of cats. But again, as I’ve said before but you keep not addressing (because you know it shows you’re a hypocrite) you don’t actually give a shit about any of this, you’re just looking for something to argue about and be smug about how morally superior you are, as this entire conversation chain and your smarmy attitude demonstrates.
And yes, like I mentioned previously some amount of hunting can actually be beneficial to animal populations as food and other resources aren’t being used up by unfit or unhealy members of the species that won’t make it to the next breeding season regardless.
And there you go dodging again because I’ve shown how foolish your logic is when applied to something you like. Even if we say the magnitude is worse, they are still comparable. Either you are logically consistent and you think people shouldn’t take their dogs on walks, or you’re a hypocrite just trying to argue with strangers on the internet to feel better about yourself.
Lol, lmao even. Letting my cat outside is “committing an act of violence”? Do you not read this shite as you’re writing it and hear how utterly silly you sound? This is peak old bloke with too much time on his hand whining on the local Facebook group type energy.
Lol proper 14 year Redditor trying to act smug to rage bait shit. Honestly a little impressive how youre able to combine these two wildly different kinds of pathetic.
But hey, sure if it makes you feel better, then I’m actually super mad! You really got undr my skin and pissed me off 😠😠😠
I know the anger and denial is just your defense mechanism against acknowledging that you’re in the wrong here.
Hopefully you’ll get past it and start taking responsibility one day. I just hope your realization doesn’t come at the cost of a child’s eyesight. Peace mate.
Lmao dodging the whole entire comment this time. Then accusing me of the one being in denial.
I think it’s pretty obvious you know you’re a massive hypocrite and are just projecting to try and desperately convince yourself you “won” another internet argument.
Right… Well when you get a chance to actually read the article rather than pretend you did, let me know…
And these don’t get canned food when prey animals have been over hunted. So they’ll starve and their population will be balanced against their prey. I’m starting to think I gave you too much credit saying you understood this issue…
I’m interested in protecting biodiversity, sometimes that involves killing… Or you know… simply supervising your pets when they’re outside. But clearly you don’t have the capacity for responsibility.
You’re comparing someone who tried and failed to control their animal. Which is bad. To yourself, who refuses to control their animal, which is easily 100x worse.
How fulfilling do you think the lives of all the birds precious Mittens has killed have been?
You’re the one actually committing violence by releasing a violent predator unsupervised. How do you know it hasn’t attacked a child?
I know you’re very worked up right now. But take a breathe and try to calm down.
I did read it, hence why I pointed out it’s not actually a study on the effect of cats in the UK. But on conservation law and they extrapolate data from other countries.
Maybe you should read it since it’s pretty clear you just googled the data you wanted to find and copied the first link on Google.
Cool, they still shit in your garden if they don’t get canned food. Which was the point you were whining about in your last comment.
If you’re so interested in protecting biodiversity, why do you (presumably) live in a house with windows? As many places will tell you Windows kill massive amounts of birds each year, comparable to that of cats. But again, as I’ve said before but you keep not addressing (because you know it shows you’re a hypocrite) you don’t actually give a shit about any of this, you’re just looking for something to argue about and be smug about how morally superior you are, as this entire conversation chain and your smarmy attitude demonstrates.
And yes, like I mentioned previously some amount of hunting can actually be beneficial to animal populations as food and other resources aren’t being used up by unfit or unhealy members of the species that won’t make it to the next breeding season regardless.
And there you go dodging again because I’ve shown how foolish your logic is when applied to something you like. Even if we say the magnitude is worse, they are still comparable. Either you are logically consistent and you think people shouldn’t take their dogs on walks, or you’re a hypocrite just trying to argue with strangers on the internet to feel better about yourself.
Lol, lmao even. Letting my cat outside is “committing an act of violence”? Do you not read this shite as you’re writing it and hear how utterly silly you sound? This is peak old bloke with too much time on his hand whining on the local Facebook group type energy.
Lol proper 14 year Redditor trying to act smug to rage bait shit. Honestly a little impressive how youre able to combine these two wildly different kinds of pathetic.
But hey, sure if it makes you feel better, then I’m actually super mad! You really got undr my skin and pissed me off 😠😠😠
I know the anger and denial is just your defense mechanism against acknowledging that you’re in the wrong here.
Hopefully you’ll get past it and start taking responsibility one day. I just hope your realization doesn’t come at the cost of a child’s eyesight. Peace mate.
Lmao dodging the whole entire comment this time. Then accusing me of the one being in denial.
I think it’s pretty obvious you know you’re a massive hypocrite and are just projecting to try and desperately convince yourself you “won” another internet argument.
You have my deepest pity mate.