Let’s say I live under an oppressive regime (don’t we all?) How can I use social media anonymously, so I don’t face reprisals from the government?

Mastodon, Lemmy, Reddit and other social media platforms restrict users who connect through TOR or a VPN.

Is there any way I can create an account on these services and use them anonymously?

Thanks in advance for any information and advice you can provide.

  • RadioactiveShark@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    3 hours ago

    Fellow under an oppressive regime! I signed onto Fediverse entirely through VPN with no issues! Be very careful to not say too much about yourself so they can track you; lie. Lie a lot. When not lying, do not give away any information about yourself.

  • UnknowableNight@piefed.social
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    6 hours ago

    Never had a problem on Lemmy or Mastodon with a VPN. If you create a Reddit account through a VPN, though, you will get shadowbanned. I made my Lemmy and Mastodon accounts with a VPN and had zero issues.

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    10 hours ago

    If you don’t post suspicious or radical content, even in oppressive regimes there are no problems. This also means that in these regimes using encrypted messages can be suspicious and a very close look from the authorities. In these regimes, then, it is often used to exchange problematic messages through steganography, that is, to hide these messages in innocent images, texts or music that do not arouse suspicion. Some OpenSource apps and services:

    etc…

    There are always manners to show the middle finger to these regimes

  • Brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 hours ago

    Mastodon, Lemmy, Reddit and other social media platforms restrict users who connect through TOR or a VPN

    That’s not network-wide, each Lemmy/Mastadon instance can do their own thing in regards to Tor or VPN. Find an instance that allows that or run your own.

    Not sure if Reddit changed recently but I just tested logging in/out of an old Reddit account via Tor and it worked fine. But I mostly avoid Reddit nowadays so can’t be sure my posts/comments would work there. Also note their Tor site still works most of the time, you can actually view Reddit that way if you wanted https://old.reddittorjg6rue252oqsxryoxengawnmo46qy4kyii5wtqnwfj4ooad.onion/

    (posting this comment via Tor)

    • ConsistentParadox@lemmy.mlOP
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      15 hours ago

      Fair enough, I only tried the big instances. I will try lemmy.org as another user suggested.

      I had tried making a Reddit account through Mullvad recently, but it shadowbanned me. Same through TOR. Unfortunately some communities I want to participate in are concentrated over there.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    Only mildly sarcastic, but even if you’re trying to be careful, you reveal a lot about yourself by making comments at all or interacting with a community at all. Your interests, your writing style, your browser footprint, etc. etc. It’s very difficult to not be truly unique if someone out there is purposefully tracking you as an individual. Depending on where the instance is hosted, they may be required to keep server logs and may further be required to divulge those to police for lawful investigations. “Lawful” obviously can vary widely in interpretation, depending on local corruption levels. I know that if I was of interest in an investigation it would not be hard at all to link me to my real identity, and I just sort of live with that.

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      10 minutes ago

      Whatever man.

      I change up my writing style pretty much constantly.

      And I switch between muliple accounts on several services, each representing a different fictional character.

      And I use a VPN.

    • ConsistentParadox@lemmy.mlOP
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      14 hours ago

      It’s not completely impossible. We still don’t know who Satoshi Nakamoto is, for example.

      I know instances will have to divulge logs if ordered, hence my bid to use TOR/VPN. If there is no way to do that, then I will think of some other way to communicate with people.

    • ConsistentParadox@lemmy.mlOP
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      14 hours ago

      I made a new Reddit account through Mullvad a while ago and immediately got shadow banned. Reddit has been aggressive against new users who use TOR/VPN and browsers that resist fingerprinting.

      • MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip
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        14 hours ago

        Only VPN I’ve ever used is Mullvad. Granted I didn’t use it to create my account but I’ve been accessing it for 4 years with it.

  • Voxel@feddit.uk
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    15 hours ago

    You can’t use social media anonymously, it will all be pseudonymous aslong as you engage, if you consume social media passively, you can. But their have been reports that passive social media consumption is tied to negative mental health.

    • ConsistentParadox@lemmy.mlOP
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      15 hours ago

      I should have communicated more clearly. Pseudonymous is fine, as long as it cannot be tied back to my real identity via tracing my IP address or whatever.

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        14 hours ago

        I think Tor with Tor Bridges (to obscure that you use Tor) is your best bet. Or using Tor over a VPN (using a VPN systemwide and then connect to Tor)

        Everything else is just standard opsec, not leaking personal information and so on

        Also, don’t use a E-Mail address or phone number tied to your real information, like your name or IP address. Because that is how many people got caught in the past.

        • ConsistentParadox@lemmy.mlOP
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          14 hours ago

          The problem is that Reddit shadow bans new accounts that use TOR or any browsers that resist fingerprinting. I know because I tried recently.

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            14 hours ago

            Oh I’m aware of this, their is no way around this without revealing personal data :(

  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    You can’t.

    Social media is public, period.

    If you want private social interactions then use end-to-end encrypted communication services.

    Any oppressive regime will have multiple tools that can identify your access to social media services and determine who the human is behind the keyboard. Assume that everything you post on public social media has your real life name and address attached to it.

    Unless you’re an expert and taking extreme measures (and you wouldn’t be asking this question if you were such an expert) then anonymous access to online services with respect to a sovereign power with an intelligence service is impossible.

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    17 hours ago

    It’s a bit like walking through the park every day shouting at people, and not wanting anyone to know who you are. Eventually they’d figure it out.

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    20 hours ago

    Depends on how repressive.

    Often your main method of staying safe is appearing harmless.

    You can find dedicated Mastodon and lemmy hosts more receptive to VPN users.

    Anonymous use is hard due to stuff like timing attacks and writing style recognition, etc, especially if you post publicly. You want to mimic another style, for example. And create plausible deniability around timings (like say scheduled posts)

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      14 hours ago

      Thank you, I will keep timing attacks in mind when making my posts. Writing style recognition is not a big problem since they won’t have any samples to compare my posts against.

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    If you live in an oppresive regime, there isn’t any posibility to use anonymously an social media, there the only possibility is using a P2P communication system, eg. https://securebit.chat/ or similar. All other, like Lemmy or other from the fediverse are traceable, even with VPN or even not accessible in such regimes with heavy controled servers.

  • James R Kirk@startrek.website
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    17 hours ago

    Use a VPN and also only share the most common, unoriginal thoughts, parrot the opinions of influencers, and never ever reveal anything that might hint at what makes you a unique soul flickering through the universe.

    (basically act like a redditor)

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
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      17 hours ago

      Sure waste money on a VPN and just know itnis doing almost nothing for your privacy.
      Since you know tracking people by IP is almost pointless these days wirhbyou know NAT and epically CGNAT.