The problem was integrating the Nazis into classified programs. None of them, not a single one, even Einstein, should have had security clearance. You literally invited the opposition to infiltrate your ranks.
Not to say that Einstein wasn’t a boon to the US, but an alarming amount of ‘former’ Nazis got a free psss, and shit, look at America Third Reich today!?
Einstein and many other Jewish scientists famously fled Germany in droves to escape the Nazis. Seems a little gross to suggest that refugees will bring whatever tyrannies they’re fleeing from along with them…
Oh I agree I was just trying to provide a contrast angle, to emphasize the point. Of course there were good, but clearly too many leaked through, and while the blanket answer is ‘corrupt power strives for power,’ I believe in a more nuanced kind of way.
Obviously having Einstein was a boon, but what if he’d been the kinda shit we deal with today? White-Christian-nationalist Einstein sounds like a worst-case scenario.
I don’t think that Einstein was a Nazi, from the information I have seen. I think that seeing every German as “the opposition” is itself a pretty fascist position to take.
The true opposition is not people of different nationalities, it is people of a different class. That is, the “owners” who exploit the working class by claiming ownership of the fruits of their labor.
Sorry, maybe I misspoke/misinterpreted my point. As I was taught in grade 9-10, about 20y ago, (being American myself), post WW2 US was snatching up nazi scientists like pedophiles on a playground, instead of having proper screening.
As I understand it, the screening was minimal and vulnerable, and by that measure, it’s no surprise the US became the modern Nazi-Germany.
It’s true that there were a bunch of Nazi scientists that were welcomed into the US. I don’t think that that’s really to blame for the US’s fascist tendencies, though. The US has always had fascist tendencies. If anything the US welcoming Nazi scientists is a reflection of the way that the US already was, rather than something that corrupted the US.
The problem was integrating the Nazis into classified programs. None of them, not a single one, even Einstein, should have had security clearance. You literally invited the opposition to infiltrate your ranks.
Not to say that Einstein wasn’t a boon to the US, but an alarming amount of ‘former’ Nazis got a free psss, and shit, look at
AmericaThird Reich today!?Einstein was a socialist and very against the third reich. Don’t know where you got the idea that he was a nazi
Einstein and many other Jewish scientists famously fled Germany in droves to escape the Nazis. Seems a little gross to suggest that refugees will bring whatever tyrannies they’re fleeing from along with them…
Oh I agree I was just trying to provide a contrast angle, to emphasize the point. Of course there were good, but clearly too many leaked through, and while the blanket answer is ‘corrupt power strives for power,’ I believe in a more nuanced kind of way.
Obviously having Einstein was a boon, but what if he’d been the kinda shit we deal with today? White-Christian-nationalist Einstein sounds like a worst-case scenario.
We got off lucky and that’s putting it nicely.
He was just an example of how the US was scooping up German scientists like Einstein.
Learn your shit before you call others out.
I’m confused. Is this meant to be a meta joke by arguing about something and trying to change someone’s mind?
I don’t think that Einstein was a Nazi, from the information I have seen. I think that seeing every German as “the opposition” is itself a pretty fascist position to take.
The true opposition is not people of different nationalities, it is people of a different class. That is, the “owners” who exploit the working class by claiming ownership of the fruits of their labor.
Sorry, maybe I misspoke/misinterpreted my point. As I was taught in grade 9-10, about 20y ago, (being American myself), post WW2 US was snatching up nazi scientists like pedophiles on a playground, instead of having proper screening.
As I understand it, the screening was minimal and vulnerable, and by that measure, it’s no surprise the US became the modern Nazi-Germany.
It’s true that there were a bunch of Nazi scientists that were welcomed into the US. I don’t think that that’s really to blame for the US’s fascist tendencies, though. The US has always had fascist tendencies. If anything the US welcoming Nazi scientists is a reflection of the way that the US already was, rather than something that corrupted the US.