Trans X Pitbull solidarity

  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    There are absolutely dogs that have genetic predispositions for all sorts of things. That’s hardly debated, you almost never see a Chihuahua track down lost hikers and you don’t see a Labrador chase down rats. It’s a very basic bit of genetics that makes some dogs much more able to injure or kill a person than other dogs. A Yorkie won’t put someone in the hospital, a Staffordshire will.

    And then people get involved. Shitty people will get dogs that have a dangerous reputation. The terrible people raise these dogs terribly, which creates a very poor safety record, which makes terrible people get more of them.

    It’s a self reinforcing problem, caused by predisposition and shitty people taking “advantage” of it.

    Also, are you claiming there are no genetic differences in human? Because I don’t think anyone would say that basketballers would be exactly as good at basketball if they were all 1.5m, or that Usain Bolt doesn’t have genetic predispositions to being a good runner. Of course humans have genetic predispositions, it’s stupid to claim otherwise.

    • seathru@quokk.au
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      And then people get involved. Shitty people will get dogs that have a dangerous reputation. The terrible people raise these dogs terribly, which creates a very poor safety record, which makes terrible people get more of them. It’s a self reinforcing problem, caused by predisposition and shitty people taking “advantage” of it.

      The US’s dog culture is disgusting.

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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      That’s hardly debated

      Individuals having genetic predispositions isn’t debated, but it being tied to breed is. It’s especially less likely for breeds to play a role if they’re more widespread; were the dog’s parents and grandparents bred for dogfights, or just by people who wanted one? There are also no guarantees in genetics, with even genetically identical animals being capable of great variation. Using constructed and arbitrary categories like breed to tie behavior to looks is silly.

      • tomalley8342@lemmy.world
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        24 hours ago

        Using constructed and arbitrary categories like breed to tie behavior to looks is silly.

        They are constructed and arbitrary but they are enforced by the selective breeding process itself no? That’s like the whole point of selective breeding? To select and influence constructed and arbitrary traits in the genetic lineage? Unless the claim is that the concept of selective breeding itself is ineffective, which is definitely not a take I have heard before.

    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
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      1 day ago

      And out the woodwork they come. You even brought people into the eugenics discussion lol