I experience Lemmy as a reflection of many of the problems in the world; there seems to be little effort to understand and respect different viewpoints. Instead of being curious about opinions one disagrees with, the community often feels almost aggressive. People end up in their own trenches. What about trying to be more open and curious about our differences instead?

Apparently we believe in freedom of speech—so long as the speech is something we agree with…

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    10 hours ago

    usually whenever someone complains about this sort of thing, it’s because they got told off for espousing fascist bullshit, so please, elaborate for us.

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      I checked OP’s post history, expecting to find a bunch of offensive stuff in there, but I didn’t see anything egregious in the first page. *shrug* And I’m not going to bother with digging deeper.

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      Discrediting what someone says by questioning their underlying motives instead of engaging with the actual content is called ad hominem. Along with strawmanning, it’s probably the number-one logical fallacy poisoning online discourse - and likely a major reason this whole discussion even started in the first place.

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        being the “errrrrrm, ackshually, you just committed a logical fallacy 🤓” dweeb in response to someone else being questioned whether they’re a fascist sympathizer, when that doesn’t actually invalidate what I said at all, when I wasn’t even talking to you – that’s an extraordinary kind of self-own, you do know that, right?

        I’m gonna engage with fascists and fascist sympathizers on the same level that they engage in good-faith debate in – that is to say, on whatever level I want to at any given moment in time. If they aren’t one, let them explain what innocent ideas they’ve expressed that are so poorly received, that have lead them to believe Lemmy is “lacking tolerance and acceptance” – we’ve got entire instances dedicated to porn, anarchists, AI lovers, tankies, trans people, furries, the French – I’m very eager to hear what could possibly be Too Spicy For Lemmy that is not something along the lines of “I want to gas undesirables” or trending towards that direction.

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        On the contrary, I believe everyone here holds a special place in their heart for TempleOS, even if it’s not a practical choice. Also most everyone here has mad respect for anyone rocking some other niche nerd shit like FreeBSD or ReactOS etc. (I do, anyways)

        Mostly it’s just that Windows has sucked for at least a decade and macOS is just starting on its suck arc.

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          I agree Windows sucks, just pointing out an intolerance! I think no matter what social we go on it will eventually become an echo chamber and people will be intolerant as their hatred grows.

          Another example is AI. Lemmy is intolerant of AI outside of AI specific communities, but go to LinkedIn and you have people circlejerking over how great their vibe coding is.

          Back when Reddit made it’s API change and I moved to Lemmy, it felt like people were still getting a feeling of things, there would be more discussion on subjects. As time is going on I’m seeing discussion around subject diminish. I guess it could have been because there was less posts? Or could it be as time has gone on people have become less tolerant of things Lemmy generally doesn’t like?

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            Sure, but you said intolerance for any non-Linux OS, and that’s just simply not true as there are several non-Linux OS’s we love. If you were to say Lemmy is intolerant specifically of Windows, that would be more accurate, but I’m also aware of at least one subset of die-hard Windows aficionados on Lemmy who vehemently hate Linux. Definitely a minority, but they’re there.

            Also, the db0 instance is pro-AI as I recall, so anyone who’s keen on that sort of thing is (to my knowledge) welcome there.

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              Yeah fair enough, you’re right, I should have been specific in saying Windows and MacOS.

              I believe the point still remains that intolerances exist on Lemmy.