Citizens: You can’t spy on me without a legal reason!
Govt: I know, but they can.
(big tech giants appear with decades of data)
It is one of the big lies of capitalist countries like the U.S.
“Don’t worry [CITIZEN ID] you have rights! The constitution says you do”
But then everyone is coerced to working for companies that are closer to miniature dictatorship kingdoms, with some of them being more powerful than “legitimate” governments.
Looking at CCPA deletion requests https://privacy.ca.gov/tips/submit-a-privacy-request/
The way it’s worded on that page, Businesses must comply with requests within 45 days. But if the government accesses the data as a sub processor, must they comply?
My guess would unfortunately be no.
What always freaks me out is people considering their government worse than the likes of Meta, Palantir, Google, Microsoft… At least you can vote (hopefully) for a different government. The problem is when the companies are able to buy governments, like USA is.
better just do nothing because that works way better
Gotta vote to keep a clear conscience for what comes next
Go away with your doomer memes.
You know what else won’t work, performative cynicism without any actual contribution.
You can vote for the party that supports Meta/Palantir/Google/Microsoft or you can vote for the other party that supports Meta/Palantir/Google/Microsoft
🌈 But with rainbows 🌈
Is Apple excluded?
What a reductive thing to say.
Maybe you should look at who has been expanding the surveillance state for the past 25 years, because it’s essentially a bipartisan issue in Congress and all administration. Edit to expand on my point, but the Democrats continued sycophancy to giant corporations and refusal to enact policies to benefit actual people is why America has accelerated towards fascism for the past 30 years.
Agreed. But the point they’re making (wittingly or unwittingly) isn’t “they’re both directly and indirectly responsible for the rise of the surveillance state.”
The fundamental point is: “Both parties are the same because of this one issue.” And that position is reductive to the point of being indistinguishable from the positions of centrists and conservatives, both of which often prefer easy-to-digest, broad-stroke politics over wrestling with the nuances.
Thanks for putting words in my mouth and talking down to me.
No, the point I’m making is that both parties serve the same masters. Look at who Meta/Palantir/Google/Microsoft donate to, do you think they’re wasting their money when they give millions and millions to both parties?
No, the point I’m making is that both parties serve the same masters.
To what end? What’s the logical conclusion people should draw from this?
…do you think they’re wasting their money when they give millions and millions to both parties?
I mean, yes, but to which party do they give more? You’re essentially saying “follow the money.” Here’s where the money went in 2024. You’ll note that the top eight biggest donors gave to Republicans.
They might serve the same masters, but the masters have favorites and not by accident.
People confuse cynicism with wisdom.
It’s easy to be cynical, it takes effort to be wise.
People are stuck in web 1.0 and web 2.0 thought oatterns when it comes to privacy.
You’re not kidding, that’s for sure.
My wife watched a video about ICE surveillance last night and she couldn’t believe they are building databases or protestors or holding airport photos of immigrants for 75 years. Normies do not understand just how bad it is, they think pointing out all this stuff is crazy conspiracy theory.
100% of the data is out there for every single action we do now. Everything we say (smartphones, ‘smart’ devices), Where we are driving, when we are driving, when we are out and about, who we are with, who we exchange messages with, how much money we make, what we spend it on, everything we comment on the internet, all of our browser history, every message we exchange on nearly all platforms… everything is for sale. 1984 is technically feasible, today. We’re so close it’s terrifying.
holding airport photos of immigrants for 75 year
that one is new to me (i have had The Shit to sort through and missed a couple things) but i absolutely do not doubt it.
i used to help a support group and one of my favorite dudes was an absolute conspiracy geek. he loved them a little too much. i mean i love a bigfoot story as much as the next dude, and the one after them and then the next too as the trio curls up with bigfoot in a nice warm consensual snuggle pit with coffee and silly hats what were we talking about? right it’s kind of weird having the guy who lost it over Jade Helm seem… right? about most things. i mean we were all a little off our nut (and i still am) but he needed the most help and validation. wish he were still here so i could get his thoughts.
I started talking to a friend about this and he called me a tin foil hat wearing conspiracist and said even if it’s true him and his company is making money off of it so he doesn’t care.
Yeah no shit this news is like over 6 years old, they have been doing this for some time.
Some of it is, I’m sure. But the reason I posted it was because it had a lot of detailed information which I hadn’t seen before. It was literally my first post on Lemmy today, other than comments. I hope I didn’t make a faux pas.
nah, looks like real paws to me
Sorry, you were right to post it, I am just saying this is an ongoing thing we have those of us who followed the news have known about for quite some time. Just this last summer or so there was An article In This Very intercept detailing how the feds were streamlining the buying of data broker info and distributing it to agencies, previously agencies bought it individually and many bought the same tranches of information separately.
The whole thing is fucked. It’s a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment we all know it but the goddamned federal courts are fucking traitors and deserve, something something.
the judiciary is comprised of useful idiots that care more about the law than humanity.
