• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    17 hours ago

    TBH I think even total anarchy, with roving bands of raiders, might be better than a country that wages war on every neighbor, starves its own people, and kills thousands of protestors in a short time period. The fact that they ally themselves with China is just more on the pile.

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      10 hours ago

      True, let’s hope Israel falls into Anarchy. Ah wait, they only starve the people they ethnically clean, are you talking about Israel???

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          They realize they have to kill them slow or else other countries will step in. It’s also why they’re fighting tooth and nail against the ICC’s genocide determination, even having VISA and Mastercard blacklist the judge.

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      Anarchy is not roving bands of raiders. That’s Mad Max you’re thinking of.

      Anarchy is a way of living without a hierarchical authority dictating to the people.

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        It doesn’t have to be, but it certainly can be. I’ll have you know that the roving band of raiders are well read anarcho-communists helpfully enforcing their anti-hierarchical beliefs via a system of rotating shifts of community enforcers of public safety and security, and forcefully redistributing food. It’s just that this specific case happens to involve killing everyone who disagrees with them.

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          no I’m advocating that attacking institutions of medicine and science runs counter to actually improving anything you claim to care about

          these were the people least likely to be a party to the actual Iranian atrocities

          i can’t tell if you are just arguing in bad faith, some kid inheriting beliefs from older family members or just not too bright

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            Oh wow so cool

            Except I never defended attacking those institutions? In fact, I condemned Israel for their actions. So you’re literally arguing against a made up person who holds the stances you oppose. You’re basically having a self-argument and forcing me to witness it.

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              If Israel’s goal was the collapse of the Iranian state then that would be admirable because it’s a horrible fucking state.

              pick less inflammatory words then because it reads like you do

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                Idk how you got that far into the comment without seeing the first line directly before it:

                Correction, that is not Israel’s goal. Israel’s goal is to expand their own territory, and it should never be allowed.

                Seems like you and the rest of these tankie fucks just have a skill issue.

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                  now you’re throwing a fit and making up labels

                  just take the L and do better

                  thinking all those downvotes are ‘tankies’ lmao

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      11 hours ago

      For a moment there I thought you were describing the USA. Except they align with Putin. And kill kidnapped people secretly in concentration camps. But they too like shooting civilians in the streets occasionally.

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        You won’t hear any complaints from me if you support killing Trump or funding the resistance, as long as that resistance isn’t backed by something worse like China.

        That said, even at it’s weakest the state of the USA is leagues above the hardships faced by Iranian civillians.

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          Nothing is worse than the US.

          The US has the worlds largest prison population to facilitate racial slave labour, it covertly medical tests on its people, forces sterilisation on people it deems undesirable, engages in international genocide, promotes fascism and mass murders in foreign lands, and so and so on. It is the most evil, harmful and destructive nation in history.

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            10 hours ago

            lmfao

            Iran executes gay people and helped Israel (who is also worse than the USA) start a genocide.

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              The US rapes children and covers it up.

              And Iran did not help Israel start a genocide. Fuck off with that “oh they helped Palestinians/Hamas defend themselves, that means they’re responsible for Israel’s genocide” shit take you keep trying to push.

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                The GOP rapes children and covers it up, the USA investigates and sentences them for their crimes. In North Korea childrape and marriage is accepted as standard procedure for the Kim dynasty, in Iran there is no minimum age for marriage nor consent.

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                  US soldiers gang raped girls before murdering them during the Mai Lao Massacre for just one example.

                  Sexual abuse of children and lack of consequences is a historic, ongoing, and deep seated pattern of behaviour from the American state.

                  You can try to point out a few bad things other states do, but ultimately the US has done more and worse for longer. The US is the most evil country around and its citizens eat up the propaganda that they’re good.

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                    I literally just oulined how the bad thing that people get put in prison for in the USA is perfectly legal in those other states. The USA isn’t the worst by a longshot.