Why would you call something “plant based” when it uses a lot of plastic which after short time degrades and exposes it to the environment?

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    “Real” leather (A.K.A. someone else’s skin) is also usually coated in plastic and processed with extremely harmful chromium salts, so it’s usually not any better than the worst leather alternative.

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      And veg tan? I try not to use chrome tan in stuff I make for both environmental reasons and the fact its a pain to work with but we have been veg tanning for thousands of years.

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        we’ve (as human) been doing things for thousands of years, which was barely noticeable because there were less than a billion of us until the 1800s, less than 400 million until 1400s and the obvs even less before

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      While the conclusion of this argument is valid your premises don’t follow a logical sequence. Firstly, leather is defined as a material obtained from rawhide which is tanned (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather) - this is real leather, there is no need for calls to ignorance here.

      Secondly, what do mean by referring to “someone else’s”? Because the common usage for such statements usually mean human, not non-human animals. This essentially looks like an emotional appeal at this point.

      Thirdly, you state that it is common for leather to be coated in plastic. While this is technically correct - as large portion of the market is composed of reusing scraps, it dismisses leather production from virgin rawhide and processes using vegetable or synthetic tanning which don’t need plastic for the resultant product.

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        Herdbeasts are sentient: they are “others”.

        They don’t want to be slaughtered: we care more about using meat from their bodies for a momentary meal than we care about their lives-themselves.

        That is OUR values.

        & our being sociopathic doesn’t make sociopathy universally-right or universally-valid.

        ( I’m not vegan, but universe has beaten learning into me until I’ve come around to seeing the prejudice in our whole “civilized” “relationship” with reality )

        TTBOMK, vegetable-tanning isn’t done as much because it costs more.

        & the original person’s comment about chromium-salts looks spot-on, & was ignored by your counter.

        Just pointing out some stuff for objectivity, is all: integrity’s a precious-resource, & it takes all of us being loyal to it, to make it remain in our world.

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