• nosuchanon@lemmy.world
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    Yeah great, let’s put the logging industry in charge of the forests. Who cares about research projects when you’re going to cut down all the fucking trees anyway.

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    Not so fun fact: Forest fires over last 6 years have made global forests net carbon emitters instead of sinks.

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    Yeah that’s pretty misleading. The regional offices are being replaced with 15 state-based offices.

    Same with the research program.

    “The consolidation of research stations does not mean a retreat from the agency’s research mission,” Mr. Schultz said in the email. “Forest Service R&D has produced world-class science for over a century, and that will continue. The consolidation is about organizing the research enterprise more efficiently, not diminishing it.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/climate/forest-service-research-stations.html

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      They’re destroying more than fifty research facilities across thirty-one states, labs that house decades of irreplaceable long-term science, the kind you literally cannot restart once it’s gone. And they’re replacing all of it — the offices, the scientists, the institutional knowledge, the professional independence — with fifteen political appointees called “state directors,” embedded in state capitals alongside the very governors, legislators, and industry lobbyists who have spent their careers demanding that the Forest Service log more, protect less, and get out of the way.

      https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/trump-administration-orders-dismantling-us-forest-service/7716263

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    Can you source this? Feels like a gross over exaggeration compared to the article I read before.

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      They’re destroying more than fifty research facilities across thirty-one states, labs that house decades of irreplaceable long-term science, the kind you literally cannot restart once it’s gone. And they’re replacing all of it — the offices, the scientists, the institutional knowledge, the professional independence — with fifteen political appointees called “state directors,” embedded in state capitals alongside the very governors, legislators, and industry lobbyists who have spent their careers demanding that the Forest Service log more, protect less, and get out of the way.

      https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/trump-administration-orders-dismantling-us-forest-service/7716263

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        Like I thought, both of these state its being restructured, not dismantled. There is and will still be a functioning forest service doing research.

        Not that I like the restructure but accuracy matters.

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          So far none of the Trump administration’s restructuring has been benign. If an incompetent lackey is put in place, and one will be, they have all proven to destroy the previous work.

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          There is and will still be a functioning forest service doing research.

          you can always trust trump to protect the environment

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            Every one of your own sources contradicts your post. Your post is still misinformation, no research has been stated to cease, only that some portion of the research stations will move to a centralized location.

            So, you are spreading misinformation by saying the research has been halted because nobody has said whether any research will be halted. No research program has been stated to be “destroyed” or otherwise dismantled.

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              The labs that are being “relocated” are next to the forests that they study. How the fuck do you study forests from a central headquarters in Utah?

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              How does moving research away from the study sites that need actively monitored not affect research? That’s not how this stuff works. The geographical locations of the offices is extremely important for this stuff. Does not one remember the maps of forests they planned to sell off last year? This also gets rid of people because not all can relocate and a lot of those are not going to be replaced.

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                Please tell me how effecting research is equivalent to destroying their research program, which is what you posted.

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      Yeah it is highly exaggerated.

      The regional offices are being replaced with 15 state-based offices.

      Same with the research program.

      “The consolidation of research stations does not mean a retreat from the agency’s research mission,” Mr. Schultz said in the email. “Forest Service R&D has produced world-class science for over a century, and that will continue. The consolidation is about organizing the research enterprise more efficiently, not diminishing it.”

      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/climate/forest-service-research-stations.html

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        Exactly. And I dislike this organizational change, and it should be stopped and reverted in the courts if its illegal. But accuracy matters.

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    It’s such a shame. The US had such an exemplary park system, and now I anticipate the days where they bulldoze Yellowstone for a community of golf course condos that advertise their hot spring spa.

    I hope the employees steal the data on the way out and give them to a university or some entity who can save them.

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      This isn’t the park service, but rather the forest service, and afaik the title is wrong: its not being shut down just restructured. National forest lands will stay national forest lands, parks will stay parks, and nobody is losing their jobs.

      But I might be misinformed, happy to be corrected.

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        They’re destroying more than fifty research facilities across thirty-one states, labs that house decades of irreplaceable long-term science, the kind you literally cannot restart once it’s gone. And they’re replacing all of it — the offices, the scientists, the institutional knowledge, the professional independence — with fifteen political appointees called “state directors,” embedded in state capitals alongside the very governors, legislators, and industry lobbyists who have spent their careers demanding that the Forest Service log more, protect less, and get out of the way.

        https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/trump-administration-orders-dismantling-us-forest-service/7716263

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        Ah, thank you for the clarification. I am not from the US, so I didn’t realize those were different departments. Hopefully the restructuring has minimal impacts

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        There couldn’t have possibly been a detailed plan released by a conservative think tank that was actively involved in his election campaign.

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          At least apologists, yeah. The amount of people who I’ve seen say “Yeah, the Epstein files are concerning, but…” has killed any hope I had that they might come around someday. Instead I’m all in for getting kids into politics early enough for them to form their own opinions instead of those of their parents.

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    look at all the Palestinians that were saved because we didn’t elect a warmonger like Harris.

    this is an acceptable price to pay for saving all those children.

    /s

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      Ya know, if the Democrats fucked off to conservative land and the Republicans fucked off to hell then the US could be a place where actual progressives are the opposition you could be voting for.

      And look at how pathetically weak the Democrats have been during all this. They wouldn’t have do fuck-all if Harris was elected. Ya’ll need to stop praising the knife because it’s quieter than the gun.

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        If you look at what Biden accomplished in his term he actually did quite a bit for environmental protection.

        But even if Harris did do fuck all, it’d still be better than this

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          He also allowed the GOP to, once again, get away with literal treason and face no real consequences. Harris was his VP during it all, too. They do a little bit of good for the headlines but are functionally useless when it comes to addressing the major systemic issues that keep pushing that country to the right. Their pathetic complacency is a major reason why the far-right was able to get a foothold and they continue to show that they don’t really give a fuck.

          I’m not stupid, I do know that Biden’s administration did ok at a handful of things, it’s just wild that you believe that’s enough. It’s like saying you had a good day because your partner didn’t hit you as though that should be remarkable. Ya’ll’re in an abusive relationship and need to figure that shit out yesterday.

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        Thank you. It’s rare that someone criticizes the Democrats AND acknowledges that a third of the country (MAGA) would have to die before things could get better.

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        They have been so incompetent and ineffective im starting to believe the whole “fake opposition” conspiracy might be true.

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          Even if it wasn’t true, they are so consistently operating in ways that make it functionally true that clearly their entire way of being is just bad. Intention doesn’t really matter if both options are the same level of utter failure.

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      Can always count on centrists to gloat that no one had the option to vote against the genocide that gives their lives meaning.

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          Ah, so you’re saying the Republicans hacked the voting machines so anyone who didn’t show up voted for Trump?

          Or are you saying they gained access to ancient Eldritch magics that did the same but on paper?

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            Hack the voting machines? They did it the old fashioned way by closing voting sites in high density cities, violent intimidation tactics to keep entire neighborhoods from voting, dismantling mail sorting machines, destroying ballots, etc. The voting machines were probably compromised too, yes.

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    Sorry but such a screencap requires a source. This is almost surely misinformation.

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    Sir, this is not Reddit. Here people still factcheck headlines before replying to ragebait.

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    Eh he is funneling money from everything he deems unnecessary (health, science, nature preservation, education, progressing human rights etc) to pockets of his buddies, Netanyahu and tech oligarchs.

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        It feels more like he is Netanyahu’s attack dog and some of the tech oligarchs with dad issues treat him like one. The others just lick his ass for free pass to do whatever the fuck they want. Of course you may ask “aren’t these the only modes of friendship that exists in Trump’s life” and you may be right…

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    Please provide sources with posts from prominent people. A lot of altered and fake posts tend to be spread.

    This looks like it may be one of them as only parts of the forest service are closing as far as a fast search can tell.

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      It makes my fucking blood boil and I don’t even live in the USA. For all the problems your country has, the parks, the forestry, the public land and wild spaces are truly unique and precious assets, even looking at it in a global sense rather than a national one. Something worth defending tooth and nail. So of course Trump would want to destroy all of that, because if he didn’t, you could still make the case that he hadn’t really irredeemably and permanently ruined every single aspect of the country.