• ZephrC@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I’m pretty sure there’s someone, somewhere at Nintendo who knows how google works. I would be shocked if they don’t know more about Switch emulators than I do, and Yuzu wasn’t even my first choice. Yuzu didn’t get sued because it’s popular. They got sued because they ran a profitable company in a country that enforces IP laws pretty strictly and tends to side with large corporations over people.

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      8 months ago

      Let’s say, hypothetically, that I’m not a Nintendo spy. Let’s also say that, still hypothetically, I would be interested in, or curious about, maybe, what would have been your first choice. Would you hypothetically tell it to me?

      Not talking about pirating anything, btw. Just making hypotheses about a purely imaginary scenario.

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    8 months ago

    This biggest game launch in years got leaked online, and the discord for yuzu got 50k new users at the same time all asking for the game pre release.

    Yuzu even got featured on the steam deck promotional material briefly.

    I don’t think Nintendo would just sit back on that. The horse was out of the barn and between steam deck and totk Nintendo was never going to sit idly by.

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    8 months ago

    This is such a load of shit, companies always know about hacked products long before they become popular.

    If devs really wanted this to not happen they’d be doing it how every successful cracker does, by operating in a C.I.S. state and keeping themselves safe, not by clutching their pearls about people pirating games and being assholes to their only real users.

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      8 months ago

      They may or may not know about them, but when someone higher up gets embarrassed, such as TOTK being streamed before launch, that creates a lot of pressure to act

      Companies aren’t people either. Did someone at Nintendo know about this? Undoubtedly. I’m sure plenty of them did, they’re a big company and emulators for their old content are like the #1 gaming emulators.

      Their lawyers and leadership may have known in a vague sense, but they’re probably not technical. Something got them in a room together to see if they could do something about this… It wasn’t because they lost money (I doubt they did), it was because they looked bad in front of shareholders

      I’ll preface this by saying fuck Nintendo, this is really bad precedent and I’m so pissed this went through. The judgement against them was seriously insane… They built a tool that was legal (at least before now), and were fined $1.6 million, had to give up everything with the name yuzu, had to give up all of their personal Nintendo products, and there were a few other things… It’s truly insane IP is being protected to this extent.

      But conversely, people were way too public with the TOTK leak. Teach your friends and family how to sail the high seas, talk about it in niche corners, drop theoretical knowledge on strangers in quiet corners of the web.

      The high seas are an open secret… It’s fine if most everyone uses it, especially when companies make their own products uncompetitive with the hassle of alternative means. But, we have to pretend in public, at least a little

      If it’s out in the open, someone is going to push IP law even further. Not for moral or profit reasons, purely because a win will make them look strong and an embarrassment makes them look weak.

      And that makes stock prices dance for a bit.

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        8 months ago

        I think the fundamental problem here is that we’re trying to point fingers at each other or situations instead of acknowledging that it’s not feasible to keep doing this in their domain no matter how much we try to make them happy. Instead of just going “oh we should’ve kept it secret” or “those users shouldn’t have done that” or “it was the NFTs!!1!!1!” and thinking that there was a way we could’ve gotten away with it, we should be encouraging doing this stuff in places where it’s harder if not impossible for them to win. Do what the crackers already did to become successful and free, and not pretend that there’s a way to get away with it in the western country that kisses up to companies.

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      8 months ago

      Agreed. But in this case, yuzu is literaly the first result for “switch emulator” so nindento could probably find it on their own

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        8 months ago

        The problem is that they provided instructions on their official site on how to dump encryption keys. That’s just dumb. Let the community supplement that info and just provide the emulator and play dumb.

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          Lol! I did not know that. Sharing keys for a piece of hardware that’s still in production is bold

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            They didn’t share keys, they shared instructions on how to dump them. But it’s still dumb, just don’t raise any flags if you’re trying to run a for profit company.