• SuperDuper@lemmy.world
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    Bri’ish people: Conquer half of the world in the name of spices

    Also Bri’ish people: Refuse to season food

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    Microwave : boils water
    Stovetop : boils water
    Electric stovetop : boils water
    Induction stovetop : boils water
    Electric kettle : boils water
    Open flame : boils water

    Bri’ish “people” : *pretending they have any sense of taste* “mIcRoWavE wA’eR taSte difFerenT.”

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        Americans always shit on British food then come over and remark at how great it is.

        Americans try to substitute good food with size, sugar and oil.

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          Haha I was just in England/UK/Britain and the food was whack, in England especially. The reason England is famous for its fish and chips is because it’s the only thing that is good.

          Curry is bomb though, but idk (honestly) if that counts. Colonizing India is the best thing that ever happened to England, sadly you cannot say the same going the other direction lol

          Haggis fucking rules though!

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      In our defence (spelt correctly) all of the above are acceptable, except the microwave. Reasons being that a) the microwave doesn’t boil it evenly, and you get pockets of mega heated water that bubble up and splash up in the microwave, then drip off the manky ceiling of the microwave and into your cup. B) microwaves stink. I don’t know anyone that uses one for anything other than popcorn or melting butter. But if you’re using it to cook as well… 🤢

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        1. Clean out your fuckin microwaves.
        2. Convection currents stir the water automatically, heating it unevenly doesn’t matter. A stovetop also heats water unevenly.
        3. Stop microwaving fucking fish you dirty bastards. I will punt any mf who microwaves fish into the fuckin Gehenna.
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          Convection currents don’t stir water in a microwave because the heat source isn’t on the bottom. That’s the difference. You get temperature stratified water where the surface is hotter than the bottom of the cup and they don’t naturally mix.

          Of course, here in America, we have this incredible technology called a spoon. Pull that bad boy out, give a little stir, problem solved.

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            Convection currents don’t need the heat source to be directly at the bottom to stir the liquid, it just needs cold water to be on-top of hot, because cold is more dense.
            Microwaves don’t really heat top to bottom either, it’s shooting waves through the body of the water and even the cup, directly exciting a bunch of individual H2O atoms in hot spots where the microwaves peak at, (e.g. the actual microwaves not the name of the machine) heating the liquid very unevenly. The wave could very much be heating a fraction of the top, middle, and bottom at different points in 3d space. it just depends on the peak of the micro-waves.

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                I’m well aware of temperature stratification. It doesn’t happen in a microwave in the same way.

                Micro waves don’t heat purely the top surface, they penetrate the entire waters body creating super-heated localized hotpots that shift the water around from Convection currents because the hotter more excited water atoms are less dense than the colder less excited water atoms above them spreading temperature out from those hotspots.
                Temperature stratification only comes into play if there’s no nucleation point, in which you get this.
                Also, your link is dead.

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                  I’m well aware of temperature stratification. It doesn’t happen in a microwave.

                  It empirically does. We can argue about the theory all day but the research says microwaves produce stratified temperature gradients when heating liquids. However, I’d point out that, in atmosphere, when we have localized hot spots the warm air can effectively travel in bubbles without significant mixing for quite some distance. There seems to be a similar phenomena at work when microwaving liquids.

                  See the screenshot below.

                  I pulled this from “Multiphysics analysis for unusual heat convection in microwave heating liquid” published in 2020 in AIP Advances.

                  Relevant excerpts:

                  “ Usually, the fluidity of liquids is considered to make the temperature field uniform, when it is heated, because of the heat convection, but there is something different when microwave heating. The temperature of the top is always the highest in the liquid when heated by microwaves.”

                  “ The experimental results show that when the modified glass cup with 7 cm metal coating is used to heat water in a microwave oven, the temperature difference between the upper and lower parts of the water is reduced from 7.8 °C to 0.5 °C.”

                  “According to the feedback from Midea (microwave appliance makers), when users use the microwave oven to heat liquids such as milk or water, the temperature at the top of the liquid will be significantly higher than the temperature at the bottom.”

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      You’ve missed the way that British people actually boil water though, thus missing the true reason that we’re superior.

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    Americans: invent machine to boil water

    Also Americans: use that machine to boil water

    Rest of the world: 😱

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      The cavity magnetron was invented in England by a man who was clearly a tea drinker. The Americans successfully commercialised the device some years later, no doubt by a coffee drinker.

      If you guys had more volts in the household electrics you too could use an electric kettle like we do in the UK.

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        You mean the electric kettles that you can find at literally any fucking Walmart ever.

        The standard US household voltage is infact higher than the UK 230V 50hz at 240V 60Hz with outlets output differing depending on what devices it’s intended for. Outlets intended for low volt devices are 110-120V 60Hz using NEMA 1-15P & 5-15R, Outlets intended for high volt devices are 220-240V 60Hz using a NEMA 6-15P & 6-50P connections.

        Wikipedia

        Today, virtually all American homes and businesses have access to 120 and 240 V at 60 Hz. Both voltages are available on the three wires (two “hot” legs of opposite phase and one “neutral” leg).

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    This isn’t true, Americans make tea by boiling a stovetop kettle pouring that into a pitcher with 5 teabags adding 1-3 cups of sugar after about 3 minutes and then filling that pitcher to the top with hot tap water. And then pouring that over ice after about 5 minutes

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      Just plug it into an outlet that outputs higher voltage(you can’t lol). The US household standard is actually higher than the UK(230V 50Hz) at 240V 60Hz, the output of the outlet is just dependent on what devices it’s intended for. General outlets output 110-120V 60Hz, outlets intended for say an electric stovetop or dyer output 220-240V 60Hz. Too hard to access? Literally can’t go wrong with these bad boys.

      Wikipedia

      Today, virtually all American homes and businesses have access to 120 and 240 V at 60 Hz. Both voltages are available on the three wires (two “hot” legs of opposite phase and one “neutral” leg).

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        A couple of issues:

        Watts = Volts * Amps. So, if the circuit that the outlet is on is not rated for enough current, it will either trip the breaker or potentially start an electrical fire.

        A 240V outlet requires appropriately-rated wiring and breaker, not to mention the outlet itself. Generally these are only installed for ranges and dryers. Getting an extra installed for the counter isn’t in the budget for most people.

        And for the 240V extension cord…really?.. Is that thing rated for consistent usage at >3kW and potential water exposure? If it’s not, that’s just asking for a house fire.

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          Watts = Volts * Amps. So, if the circuit that the outlet is on is not rated for enough current, it will either trip the breaker or potentially start an electrical fire.

          The outlets are installed per-code by licensed professionals, there’s nothing to worry about. You can’t install them yourself without breaking the law, unless you happen to be a licensed professional.

          And for the 240V extension cord…really?.. Is that thing rated for consistent usage at >3kW and potential water exposure? If it’s not, that’s just asking for a house fire.

          The extension cords I linked are perfectly safe and manufactured to deal with 24/7 use & potential water exposure.
          In fact there probably overkill. They’re capable of 3.60kW(240 × 15 amp = 3600watts).
          Just look at the company making them 😆 https://milehydro.com/
          Just don’t use them outside and you’ll be fine.

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            You’ve got it! Good catch on that extension. 20% over is probably safe, if the manufacturer rated it with enough headroom.

            The outlets are installed per-code by licensed professionals, there’s nothing to worry about. You can’t install them yourself without breaking the law, unless you happen to be a licensed professional.

            Yup. With good reason. I DO actually want to get a 240V installed specifically for this purpose myself. Just too pricy to justify/afford at the moment between permit and electrician costs. I’d wager that the cost is well outside of the realm of affordable for a good portion of people, especially those who are not licensed electricians or able to buy a home.

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              Yeah getting new ones installed is costly, but most homes & apartments should have at least one and these 25ft extension cords are likely more than enough as a substitute unless you get really unlucky where the only one is in the basement which would really suck.

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        Before an American lights their house on fire, do not plug a 120V appliance into an 240V circuit using one of these adapters. If you live in North America, a 240V appliance will not use an ordinary plug, and the 120V ones that do will probably light on fire if you plug it into one of these. You need to import a 240V appliance from a different country, and then it will use the plug from that country and not an North American plug.

        Also for the non-Americans, 240V circuits in NA need 4 wires (2 hots, 1 neutral, 1 ground) instead of 3, so usually only 1-2 circuits in the entire house will be 240 and the rest are 120. If you want to install another 240V outlet, you probably need to install a completely new circuit at the breaker and run new copper wires from there to the new outlet, which is very expensive.

        Also, wires heat up according to their current. Normally the breaker at the panel can open the circuit if the current is too high, but 240V circuits are often rated for much higher currents (e.g. 50A instead of 20A), and the appliance itself will draw a lot more current than it expects if the voltage is double, which can internally overload it even if it doesn’t trip the breaker. E.g. if you plug a 120V 15A kettle into a 240V 40A circuit, it will draw 30A according to Ohms Law, which will probably cause wires within to overheat and eventually light the kettle on fire without tripping the breaker.

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          using one of these these adapters

          There actually not adapters. If you look, there NEMA 6-15P & 6-50P on both ends which is US standard 240V outlets.

          …a 240V appliance will not use an ordinary plug… You need to import a 240V appliance from a different country…

          There actually are 240V appliances with a US NEMA 6-15P & 6-50P plug. You’re just not going to find them at wallmart, there usually used by businesses like mom & pop shops. For example, this expensive mf. For imported appliances all you need is an adapter from NEMA 6-15P/6-50P to whatever that particular 240v rated appliance is using.