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  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    what do soldiers fighting a cruel and meaningless war expect luxury meals?

  • chewypoops@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I mean, when you literally sign up to be cannon fodder, I don’t know what you expect. America has always treated troops and veterans like livestock. You could simply choose a career other than oppressing the third world for oil profits.

    • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Legitimately, I’d like to say I was just making some principled stand, but when I was 18, “the food is famously terrible” was a bigger part of me not joining the military than I’d like to admit 😂

  • percent@infosec.pub
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    5 hours ago

    Ever had a meal with a group of US military guys? They’re done in like 3 minutes. It’s wild

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    7 hours ago

    Oh, no, the volunteer soldiers who are willingly taking orders from pedophiles and Nazis aren’t feeling COMFY and eating gourmet food???

    Fuck’em. This is better than they deserve.

    • matlag@sh.itjust.works
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      Pretty sure that when they enlisted, they had something else in mind.
      And it’s not always about the glory of the nation or other crap.

      • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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        They willingly signed up for engaging in colonial subjugation of the rest of the world, including by kidnapping, torturing, and killing non-white foreigners.

        What do you think they had in mind?

      • WizardOfFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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        7 hours ago

        Did they willingly enlist in the US military during the last 50 or so years?

        Again, fuck them. It’s not as if they had anything noble “in mind”

        • gogonan@lemmy.world
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          7 hours ago

          Yeah fuck those stupid poors who had no financial safety net nor a good enough education to pursue traditional employment, who wanted the option to secure a good mortgage or steady healthcare

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            3 hours ago

            steady healthcare

            It seems like the ones who really need the steady healthcare are either not eligible for the military or are the ones being attacked by it

          • WizardOfFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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            7 hours ago

            Hey, I won’t stop you if you want to take the position that poverty turns the decision to carry water for an empire built on coercion, colonization, and violence into a virtuous one. Knock yourself out.

            • gogonan@lemmy.world
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              7 hours ago

              We all participate in unethical business, however far removed our choices may seem from it. I’m not part of the military, don’t endorse it, and am angry about how my taxes are spent on it. It’s our government and military leadership that causes these problems and should be derided though. A lot of these sailors probably joined the military fresh out of high school with nothing better out there for them and aren’t educated enough to realize they’re not doing anything good. They’re kids though, but ride your moral high ground. I’m sure you’ve never worked for a scummy corporation or consumed slave labor goods.

              • WizardOfFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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                Cool. I guess all those ICE agents are also just fundamentally decent people, deprived of education and economic opportunity. They just don’t know any better. I guess because we all purchase goods from retail locations we’re just as bad.

                People like you are the reason your country is where it is. Get yourself some real values.

              • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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                We all participate in unethical business

                Incorrect. Far from everyone (who lives in NATO) does actual contribution to NATO’s colonialism.

                and am angry about how my taxes are spent on it.

                This is a backwards view on the matter. The government literally cannot run out of money. What taxes do is remove money from circulation. There isn’t really a difference between a government having taxed a sum of money and that government not having issues that money (apart from what people actually did for that money).

                A lot of these sailors probably joined the military fresh out of high school with nothing better out there for them

                Other choices being worse for these people do not make this choice morally justifiable. Surely you aren’t in favour of people taking random bribe simply on the grounds of the alternatives being less self-serving?

            • gogonan@lemmy.world
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              I just think willfully ignoring the fact that there’s systemic pressure that coerces the lower class into the military and then saying they deserve to be starved and sent off to their deaths in pointless war is a fucking wildly dickish perspective. Like you assume they chose to be in the military as one of many lucrative options and not as the only prospective chance to better themselves (however false the illusion is)

              • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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                Poverty draft is a myth. The USian soldiers are almost all well-off.
                All of them voluntarily sign up for the most vile activity one can do.

                Also, poverty and especially the often pointed-out desire to get higher education are not good excuses to inflict poverty, torture and death upon non-white foreigners.

                Also, do you think that the countries they invade have a moral right to defend themselves and kill these monsters, or do you side with the invaders and claim that these people should live?

                • BiCow@lemmy.world
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                  I may regret responding to you but here goes…Poverty draft IS a real thing and the recruiting tactics are absolutely vile. I joined the Navy after dropping out of local community college working as a busser at a local bar/restaurant living with my grandmother and mother in the same house. The recruiters for all branches of the military are definitely predatory they get quotas to meet and signing up people for high desired or high skill positions gave them extra points. I was told that if I signed up for a 6 year enlistment I would go to college at Charleston University for 2 years, be able to have a 4 year degree after my service as well as not be deployed(ended up doing 3 back to back sea duty tours). Most of the people I served with came from a mix of stories that if played out they would not have had much to offer their families. Many people I directly worked with got in with waivers for criminal offenses and admitted that they would probably have ended up in the system and literally had no other options. The coercion that is used on vulnerable people whos literally brain is still developing is not great.

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  • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
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    These are mostly on ship. They’re at that stage relying on whatever is left in the large fridges, having to ration their stock. Which can only mean they’re not being resupplied at sea, especially at such a prolonged operation – short of calling it a war – that the shit leadership bragged they’ll finish Iran in a week.

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    This is the exact same stuff they fed us when I was in Iraq 20 year ago. They gave the contract to the lowest bidder who bought the cheapest food possible then pocketed the “leftover” cash. This isn’t new. The difference between then and now is our families could send us care packages and we didn’t have cell phones to post about the mystery meat. I don’t want anyone to eat like this but I also don’t know why everyone is surprised by wartime food. Food SUCKS when you deploy, it’s why they give troops the big send off steak and lobster dinner. Best way to avoid giving our troops trash food is to NOT DEPLOY THEM.

    • raze2012@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      Every US male who turns 18 “volunteers” to be eligible to “volunteer” to die overseas for the Epstein class.

  • Cherries@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    The latest Chinese propaganda has been posting pictures of their aircraft carrier meals.