There’s a story about the suggested sequel to the gladiator that has Maximus traveling through fucking time. The reason that movie was pitched was because the director and the writer specifically did not want to make that movie. But the contract for the Gladiator required a multiple movie deal if it was successful. So they pitched the craziest shit imaginable and the studio let them out of the contact.
A lot of movies are made this away. Original IP doesn’t get picked up unless a studio thinks they can milk it.
So they have to game their contracts to not be forcefully made to milk a franchise. Sounds like a lovely industry. Maybe it should be torn down and a wave of small creators and indie studios will revive the golden age of film as art instead of being products to milk.
So those indie films definitely still get made, sometimes. But there’s a big fucking asterisk attached to that. Fox searchlight and another of similar firms will buy movies that have already been made and give them a wider audience. A24 also produces films that would traditionally fly the insie circuit. But for the most part, these movies are being paid for by the people making them, and whether or not they ever see that money returned is purely a matter of luck.
Kevin Smith has a long story about how he managed to finance one of his movies only because he’d done a shitty Bruce Willis movie. And relatively speaking the movie the financed was peanuts compared to what some can cost.
I say this with the utmost respect to “the industry”: If all you have is a shitty moneygrab sequel or reboot “or nothing,” make nothing. Get back to the goddamn writer’s room, take a walk to your local comic shop and look for something creator owned that hasn’t been adapted if you have to, there’s plenty good shit, worked for Invincible, but for “Bob’s” sake stooooop with the bullshit.
Not that it matters to me, I gave up on them in about 2010, and they’d have to pay me to watch their garbage now.
They do if they retcon things that happened in the good installments, like MSG4 explaining all the cool and unexplained stuff from the previous three by saying “nanomachines did it” except the one thing that would have made sense to be nanomachines, which turned out to be a case self-hypnosis.
They should have spent the budget on something that was original and took a risk. We can watch a shitty reboot or a shitty original - and some of those original movies that are panned as not good at least have a shot at maybe becoming a cult classic or a fan fave.
👏 Bad 👏 sequels/spinoffs 👏 don’t 👏 ruin 👏 existing 👏 works 👏
👏We’re👏sick👏of👏the👏waste👏of👏money👏and👏creative👏talent👏producing👏garbage👏
Sometimes sequels are how movies get made at all.
There’s a story about the suggested sequel to the gladiator that has Maximus traveling through fucking time. The reason that movie was pitched was because the director and the writer specifically did not want to make that movie. But the contract for the Gladiator required a multiple movie deal if it was successful. So they pitched the craziest shit imaginable and the studio let them out of the contact.
A lot of movies are made this away. Original IP doesn’t get picked up unless a studio thinks they can milk it.
So they have to game their contracts to not be forcefully made to milk a franchise. Sounds like a lovely industry. Maybe it should be torn down and a wave of small creators and indie studios will revive the golden age of film as art instead of being products to milk.
So those indie films definitely still get made, sometimes. But there’s a big fucking asterisk attached to that. Fox searchlight and another of similar firms will buy movies that have already been made and give them a wider audience. A24 also produces films that would traditionally fly the insie circuit. But for the most part, these movies are being paid for by the people making them, and whether or not they ever see that money returned is purely a matter of luck.
Kevin Smith has a long story about how he managed to finance one of his movies only because he’d done a shitty Bruce Willis movie. And relatively speaking the movie the financed was peanuts compared to what some can cost.
I say this with the utmost respect to “the industry”: If all you have is a shitty moneygrab sequel or reboot “or nothing,” make nothing. Get back to the goddamn writer’s room, take a walk to your local comic shop and look for something creator owned that hasn’t been adapted if you have to, there’s plenty good shit, worked for Invincible, but for “Bob’s” sake stooooop with the bullshit.
Not that it matters to me, I gave up on them in about 2010, and they’d have to pay me to watch their garbage now.
They do if they retcon things that happened in the good installments, like MSG4 explaining all the cool and unexplained stuff from the previous three by saying “nanomachines did it” except the one thing that would have made sense to be nanomachines, which turned out to be a case self-hypnosis.
They should have spent the budget on something that was original and took a risk. We can watch a shitty reboot or a shitty original - and some of those original movies that are panned as not good at least have a shot at maybe becoming a cult classic or a fan fave.