• Hoimo@ani.social
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    7 hours ago

    How strong is that spider that it can lift a turtle? Will one nuke be enough?

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      5 hours ago

      Even if that particular picture was AI (I don’t think it is), there is nothing surprising or exaggerated going on here. More like it’s a rather rare/undocumented behaviour. Bit it’s totally within the capabilities of a fishing spider.

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        Yeah I’ve looked a bit harder and I see the spider shape a bit better now (from underneath), the slight motion blur in places would suggest not AI but I’m not totally convinced. From a quick search these spiders aren’t that big so that must be a very baby turtle, and I don’t know what’s going on around the mouth but it doesn’t look right, nor does the interference pattern of the ripples.

        Agreeing with me would make a lot of people a lot more comfortable 😅

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          The sizes make sense - the turtle is on the smaller end and likely a juvenile, but both seem appropriately sized - the spiders can grow that big, especially if female.

          I found this in a group for spider enthusiasts - these are the kinds of geeks that will look at a spider leg and get it down to class. AI is not good at generating invertebrate species specific traits yet. While this is pretty spectacular - not a daily event - these are both species that can be found in the same area, and these spiders will attack vertebrate pray.

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            It’s not a spider preying on a vertebrate that is hard to believe, it is the lifting. Even ignoring the physics of the situation, I don’t think fishing spiders hunt that way.

            People act like they’ve forgotten that there are other ways than AI to fake an image.

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              2 hours ago

              Here’s one eating a frog.

              What specifically about the physics of the situation is making you suspicious? I’ve worked in an invertebrate lab, admittedly primarily with ants, and nothing about this raises alarm bells.

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                I imagine the weight of that turtle to be considerably more than that frog.

                Also how do you think that spider is holding that turtle? Just what do you think has a grip on what?

                Also zoom in and notice the odd gray smudging along the spider leg that is in front of the turtle shell. I’m no Photoshop expert but that looks suspicious to me.

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            4 hours ago

            the spiders can grow that big, especially if female.

            I tried to click the link, but after having to identify motorcyles and busses 5 times in a row … I gave up. Maybe I’m a bot.

            Good thing I have an actual book!

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          From a quick search these spiders aren’t that big

          25-28mm body length is quite a considerable size. I think a cousin of these is often dubbed the “UK’s largest spider”, even though it technically isn’t. But they are up there. Yes, the US has tarantulas, giant house spiders and some larger wolf spiders, but Dolomedes is up there as well.

          Credit “Spiders of North America” by Sarah Rose.